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		<title>By: Shmuel baronsky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shmuel baronsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Adam Goldstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Goldstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 08:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 06:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;How do You base your blog on interviews which may even be erroneous?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
If you know the interviews are erroneous &amp; can prove it then by all means do so.  If not, then you&#039;re nothing but a Momo-Abitbol partisan with as much credibility as both of those hacks have.

&lt;blockquote&gt;What kind of Jew adds to the already anti semetic propaganda on the net? Your crap blog is pure propaganda.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You must&#039;ve learned your literary stylings at the feet of the smear-master, Abitbol himself.  Thanks for giving me a good reason to remove yr comment privileges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>How do You base your blog on interviews which may even be erroneous?</p></blockquote>
<p>If you know the interviews are erroneous &amp; can prove it then by all means do so.  If not, then you&#8217;re nothing but a Momo-Abitbol partisan with as much credibility as both of those hacks have.</p>
<blockquote><p>What kind of Jew adds to the already anti semetic propaganda on the net? Your crap blog is pure propaganda.</p></blockquote>
<p>You must&#8217;ve learned your literary stylings at the feet of the smear-master, Abitbol himself.  Thanks for giving me a good reason to remove yr comment privileges.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy Dean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 22:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Silverstein,

You really don&#039;t seem to have a clue about the Birthright Oranim trips. As a former participant, I could not disagree more with your boring article. How do You base your blog on interviews which may even be erroneous? I see your atatck on Momo because of the afflilation with jewlicious.

As I read your smut, I ask myself what your goal is? Is your goal to smear a mans name- a man who you have never met? Lets talk about real issues, not this hearsay crap that you post. What kind of Jew adds to the already anti semetic propaganda on the net? Your crap blog is pure propaganda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Silverstein,</p>
<p>You really don&#8217;t seem to have a clue about the Birthright Oranim trips. As a former participant, I could not disagree more with your boring article. How do You base your blog on interviews which may even be erroneous? I see your atatck on Momo because of the afflilation with jewlicious.</p>
<p>As I read your smut, I ask myself what your goal is? Is your goal to smear a mans name- a man who you have never met? Lets talk about real issues, not this hearsay crap that you post. What kind of Jew adds to the already anti semetic propaganda on the net? Your crap blog is pure propaganda.</p>
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		<title>By: alumni</title>
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		<dc:creator>alumni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 23:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 07:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Frankly, I really don’t know anyone that has as much direct contact with young diaspora Jews as he does.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Then you travel in a very narrow circle.  Momo interacts with an extremely narrow slice of Diaspora Jewish youth.  What percentage of Jewish youth overall have been to Israel, let alone taken a Birthright trip, let alone a Momo trip???

&lt;blockquote&gt;If what he sees in his travels and talks is a healthy, vibrant and secure Jewish future, I don’t think he’d be as singularly obsessive as he is&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Momo is a classic right wing Zionist.  He sees in his travels what he wants to see.  That&#039;s the problem w. a classic Zionist viewpt.  It sees the Diaspora as a last gasp of Jewish existence outside the Jewish homeland.  It sees the Diaspora as a hopeless lost cause.  Well, excuse me but the Diaspora doesn&#039;t need help fr. Jews like this.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Most of my friends are unaffiliated and most are dating or have married non-Jews.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
And you interpret yr anecdotal, personal experience as representative of the entire Jewish Diaspora?  That&#039;s mighty white (&amp; Zionist) of you if you don&#039;t mind my saying.  And why this obsession with intermarriage?  Why turn Jewish identity into a cheap focus on ensuring that there are always two Jews in every Jewish couple?  This obsession is like a drug that classic Zionists are addicted to.  It&#039;s all they can talk about.  It&#039;s the only evidence they can muster for their alleged argument.

Well, sorry.  As far as I and many other Jews can tell Israel isn&#039;t &lt;em&gt;kol kach ay yay yay&lt;/em&gt; if you know what I mean.  Contrary to yr specious claim, Israel&#039;s military adventurism has driven countless tens of thousands of young people away from not just Israel, but Jewish identity.  Their parents tell them Israel is the center of Jewish identity and they respond, if that&#039;s the case then I think I&#039;ll go elsewhere.  Many Jewish surveys bear out this finding.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3446492,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;These are the results&lt;/a&gt; of but one of them.  If you don&#039;t like what I&#039;m saying take it up with the respondents of the surveys (your fellow young Jews) who confirm my views.

If the Diapsora faces a weakening Jewish identity Israel is no less problematic.  To pretend otherwise as you, Momo and other classic Zionists do means you are fooling yourselves.

&lt;blockquote&gt;As to those kids who feel alienated by Israel’s state of conflict, those seem to represent a tiny insignificant minority&lt;/blockquote&gt;
A preposterous statement.  They are a tiny minority of Birthright participants because Birthright&#039;s marketing and content selects against such individuals who hardly ever go on such trips.  You don&#039;t know all Jewish youth.  You know who you know.  But Jewish pollsters have done scientific sampling of the very cohort you claim to know like the back of your hand, and they say otherwise.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Maybe 150 have availed themselves of the opportunity to go on Birthright Unplugged.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
How do you know this figure?  Are you making it up?  Did you actually do any research to discover whether it is accurate?  I doubt it.  And even if it is (it isn&#039;t), the fact is that Birthright has millions in marketing budget fr. Jewish federations and other sources.  Birthright Unplugged has no wealthy fat cats like Shelly Adelson supporting it with infusions of $70 million.  If it did, I assure you BU could muster terrific numbers as well.

If you&#039;re so knowledgeable about Reform Judaism then why did you attempt to use it as proof that American Judaism is doomed?

&lt;blockquote&gt;All Birthright Israel trips have to be led by experienced and certified tour guides&lt;/blockquote&gt;
A tour guide, even one trained by an educator is not an educator.  I asked how many professional educators lead trips, not how many design trips.

Tour guides under the tutelage of Momo would be entirely suspect in terms of their presentations about the Israeli-Arab conflict, Jewish history, Diaspora culture &amp; myriad other topics.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I came to my own conclusions about your writing and ideas.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Which happen to precisely ape Abitbol&#039;s.  How nice and convenient for you.

You too are done in this thread.  You&#039;ve had multiple opportunities to make yr pt if there was one.  So fly back to Abitbol or Birthright or whatever other cozy little cocoon you crept from.  You wouldn&#039;t want to have yr narrow notions of Jewish identity corrupted by ideas like the ones you&#039;ll find here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Frankly, I really don’t know anyone that has as much direct contact with young diaspora Jews as he does.</p></blockquote>
<p>Then you travel in a very narrow circle.  Momo interacts with an extremely narrow slice of Diaspora Jewish youth.  What percentage of Jewish youth overall have been to Israel, let alone taken a Birthright trip, let alone a Momo trip???</p>
<blockquote><p>If what he sees in his travels and talks is a healthy, vibrant and secure Jewish future, I don’t think he’d be as singularly obsessive as he is</p></blockquote>
<p>Momo is a classic right wing Zionist.  He sees in his travels what he wants to see.  That&#8217;s the problem w. a classic Zionist viewpt.  It sees the Diaspora as a last gasp of Jewish existence outside the Jewish homeland.  It sees the Diaspora as a hopeless lost cause.  Well, excuse me but the Diaspora doesn&#8217;t need help fr. Jews like this.</p>
<blockquote><p>Most of my friends are unaffiliated and most are dating or have married non-Jews.</p></blockquote>
<p>And you interpret yr anecdotal, personal experience as representative of the entire Jewish Diaspora?  That&#8217;s mighty white (&amp; Zionist) of you if you don&#8217;t mind my saying.  And why this obsession with intermarriage?  Why turn Jewish identity into a cheap focus on ensuring that there are always two Jews in every Jewish couple?  This obsession is like a drug that classic Zionists are addicted to.  It&#8217;s all they can talk about.  It&#8217;s the only evidence they can muster for their alleged argument.</p>
<p>Well, sorry.  As far as I and many other Jews can tell Israel isn&#8217;t <em>kol kach ay yay yay</em> if you know what I mean.  Contrary to yr specious claim, Israel&#8217;s military adventurism has driven countless tens of thousands of young people away from not just Israel, but Jewish identity.  Their parents tell them Israel is the center of Jewish identity and they respond, if that&#8217;s the case then I think I&#8217;ll go elsewhere.  Many Jewish surveys bear out this finding.  <a href="http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3446492,00.html" rel="nofollow">These are the results</a> of but one of them.  If you don&#8217;t like what I&#8217;m saying take it up with the respondents of the surveys (your fellow young Jews) who confirm my views.</p>
<p>If the Diapsora faces a weakening Jewish identity Israel is no less problematic.  To pretend otherwise as you, Momo and other classic Zionists do means you are fooling yourselves.</p>
<blockquote><p>As to those kids who feel alienated by Israel’s state of conflict, those seem to represent a tiny insignificant minority</p></blockquote>
<p>A preposterous statement.  They are a tiny minority of Birthright participants because Birthright&#8217;s marketing and content selects against such individuals who hardly ever go on such trips.  You don&#8217;t know all Jewish youth.  You know who you know.  But Jewish pollsters have done scientific sampling of the very cohort you claim to know like the back of your hand, and they say otherwise.</p>
<blockquote><p>Maybe 150 have availed themselves of the opportunity to go on Birthright Unplugged.</p></blockquote>
<p>How do you know this figure?  Are you making it up?  Did you actually do any research to discover whether it is accurate?  I doubt it.  And even if it is (it isn&#8217;t), the fact is that Birthright has millions in marketing budget fr. Jewish federations and other sources.  Birthright Unplugged has no wealthy fat cats like Shelly Adelson supporting it with infusions of $70 million.  If it did, I assure you BU could muster terrific numbers as well.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re so knowledgeable about Reform Judaism then why did you attempt to use it as proof that American Judaism is doomed?</p>
<blockquote><p>All Birthright Israel trips have to be led by experienced and certified tour guides</p></blockquote>
<p>A tour guide, even one trained by an educator is not an educator.  I asked how many professional educators lead trips, not how many design trips.</p>
<p>Tour guides under the tutelage of Momo would be entirely suspect in terms of their presentations about the Israeli-Arab conflict, Jewish history, Diaspora culture &amp; myriad other topics.</p>
<blockquote><p>I came to my own conclusions about your writing and ideas.</p></blockquote>
<p>Which happen to precisely ape Abitbol&#8217;s.  How nice and convenient for you.</p>
<p>You too are done in this thread.  You&#8217;ve had multiple opportunities to make yr pt if there was one.  So fly back to Abitbol or Birthright or whatever other cozy little cocoon you crept from.  You wouldn&#8217;t want to have yr narrow notions of Jewish identity corrupted by ideas like the ones you&#8217;ll find here.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 07:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It is 100% up to a person receiving information on a debated topic for them to seek out both sides.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
No, it is the responsibility of the tour leader to present both sides.  Not just one side as most Birthright &amp; all Momo trips do.

&lt;blockquote&gt;you are clearly left wing, which is fine. However, your extremism...&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Since when does being left wing mean one is an extremist???  That tells us a lot about your views, my friend.

&lt;blockquote&gt;makes it impossible for you to properly seek a source which provides a balanced opinion.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
So Jewish Week and The Forward, which ran articles criticizing Momo&#039;s style and substance are also extremist, left wing, imbalanced publications?

You&#039;re done on this subject.  You&#039;ve had your 8 or 10 shots to make your pt.  To protect fr a severe case of logorrhea, subsequents comments by you in this thread will be moderated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It is 100% up to a person receiving information on a debated topic for them to seek out both sides.</p></blockquote>
<p>No, it is the responsibility of the tour leader to present both sides.  Not just one side as most Birthright &amp; all Momo trips do.</p>
<blockquote><p>you are clearly left wing, which is fine. However, your extremism&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Since when does being left wing mean one is an extremist???  That tells us a lot about your views, my friend.</p>
<blockquote><p>makes it impossible for you to properly seek a source which provides a balanced opinion.</p></blockquote>
<p>So Jewish Week and The Forward, which ran articles criticizing Momo&#8217;s style and substance are also extremist, left wing, imbalanced publications?</p>
<p>You&#8217;re done on this subject.  You&#8217;ve had your 8 or 10 shots to make your pt.  To protect fr a severe case of logorrhea, subsequents comments by you in this thread will be moderated.</p>
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		<title>By: alumni</title>
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		<dc:creator>alumni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 05:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, you are inferring far beyond a responsible judgment.

When a person is so quick to prejudge without a full education on the topic, yes, I wish they didn&#039;t vote. I don&#039;t care if you disagree with me, but be informed.

I would never submit anyone I know to your ridicule and judgmental interrogations. You are also avoiding to accept that you were wrong in stating as fact that a guide&#039;s opinion has an affect on their ability to provide a well educated tour. I would like to know, how many birthright trips have you been on which gives you your information?

It is 100% up to a person receiving information on a debated topic for them to seek out both sides. I have been on many guided trips that discuss sensitive topics (in Israel and other) I always welcome the guides opinion. I rather them present their side passionately then just give me middle of the road. When I want the other side, I will seek it out. From reading your comments here, you are clearly left wing, which is fine. However, your extremism by nature makes it impossible for you to properly seek a source which provides a balanced opinion. It is human nature to choose a source that is leaning to your side rather then being diametrically opposed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, you are inferring far beyond a responsible judgment.</p>
<p>When a person is so quick to prejudge without a full education on the topic, yes, I wish they didn&#8217;t vote. I don&#8217;t care if you disagree with me, but be informed.</p>
<p>I would never submit anyone I know to your ridicule and judgmental interrogations. You are also avoiding to accept that you were wrong in stating as fact that a guide&#8217;s opinion has an affect on their ability to provide a well educated tour. I would like to know, how many birthright trips have you been on which gives you your information?</p>
<p>It is 100% up to a person receiving information on a debated topic for them to seek out both sides. I have been on many guided trips that discuss sensitive topics (in Israel and other) I always welcome the guides opinion. I rather them present their side passionately then just give me middle of the road. When I want the other side, I will seek it out. From reading your comments here, you are clearly left wing, which is fine. However, your extremism by nature makes it impossible for you to properly seek a source which provides a balanced opinion. It is human nature to choose a source that is leaning to your side rather then being diametrically opposed.</p>
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