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		<title>By: Peter D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 03:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And let&#039;s not forget that Rambam was a yored.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And let&#8217;s not forget that Rambam was a yored.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 02:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I&#039;m not mistaken this comment is Justin White a longtime troll &amp; advocate of all manner of disgusting violence against me &amp; some of my fellow Jews.

Don&#039;t quote me, Justin, Amos or whoever you are, my comment rules.  I know what they are.  Do something like that again and all yr subsequent comments will be moderated.  My comment rules are primiarily meant for people who engage in reasonable discourse.  People like you who advocate killing Jews are treated more harshly as you deserve.  I could call you a Jewish advocate of murder.  But I don&#039;t have any problem w. &quot;sociopath&quot; though it wouldn&#039;t be the word I&#039;d choose for you.

&lt;blockquote&gt;You have an article “Obama Tightens Noose Around Settlements.” This can only mean only thing-you advocate the wholesale strangulation of your fellow Jews&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You&#039;re an utter moron.  He&#039;s strangling the &lt;em&gt;settlements &lt;/em&gt;you idiot, not the Jews who live in them.  Did Sharon literally strangle the settlers removed from Gaza??  Are they still among us living &amp; breathing??

&lt;blockquote&gt;Rav Ovadya...like the Rambam&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You dare to compare Rav Ovadya with the Rambam?  What a laugh!  Wasn&#039;t he the one who said that New Orleans shvartas suffered Hurricane Katrina because they were goyim who didn&#039;t study Torah??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I&#8217;m not mistaken this comment is Justin White a longtime troll &amp; advocate of all manner of disgusting violence against me &amp; some of my fellow Jews.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t quote me, Justin, Amos or whoever you are, my comment rules.  I know what they are.  Do something like that again and all yr subsequent comments will be moderated.  My comment rules are primiarily meant for people who engage in reasonable discourse.  People like you who advocate killing Jews are treated more harshly as you deserve.  I could call you a Jewish advocate of murder.  But I don&#8217;t have any problem w. &#8220;sociopath&#8221; though it wouldn&#8217;t be the word I&#8217;d choose for you.</p>
<blockquote><p>You have an article “Obama Tightens Noose Around Settlements.” This can only mean only thing-you advocate the wholesale strangulation of your fellow Jews</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;re an utter moron.  He&#8217;s strangling the <em>settlements </em>you idiot, not the Jews who live in them.  Did Sharon literally strangle the settlers removed from Gaza??  Are they still among us living &amp; breathing??</p>
<blockquote><p>Rav Ovadya&#8230;like the Rambam</p></blockquote>
<p>You dare to compare Rav Ovadya with the Rambam?  What a laugh!  Wasn&#8217;t he the one who said that New Orleans shvartas suffered Hurricane Katrina because they were goyim who didn&#8217;t study Torah??</p>
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		<title>By: Margaret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margaret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 02:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amos, I didn&#039;t refer to you as a sociopath; I suggested you read about sociopathy.  I did so because I consider a religious imprimatur to kill others to be contrary to the social good, and, in our time, to be based on education that possibly can be challenged by further education.  

My second comment relates to your apparent circumstances, and wasn&#039;t meant to be insulting, but was a further rejection of what you advocate.  The anger you express does provoke emotion in return. My emotional response led to the written one, which while a rejection of your advocacy was written in sorrow about the situation.  

I see your anger as arising, at least in part, from fear because of your situation.  I think killing continues the problematic nature of the situation and that the belief that killing is the answer is a problem for the person who holds it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amos, I didn&#8217;t refer to you as a sociopath; I suggested you read about sociopathy.  I did so because I consider a religious imprimatur to kill others to be contrary to the social good, and, in our time, to be based on education that possibly can be challenged by further education.  </p>
<p>My second comment relates to your apparent circumstances, and wasn&#8217;t meant to be insulting, but was a further rejection of what you advocate.  The anger you express does provoke emotion in return. My emotional response led to the written one, which while a rejection of your advocacy was written in sorrow about the situation.  </p>
<p>I see your anger as arising, at least in part, from fear because of your situation.  I think killing continues the problematic nature of the situation and that the belief that killing is the answer is a problem for the person who holds it.</p>
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		<title>By: Amos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 17:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Referring to someone as a sociopath is a violation of your &quot;comment rules:&quot;
&quot;1. insults, baiting, vulgarity, harassment or abuse directed toward the blog owner or other commenters are not tolerated.&quot;
I see, however, that Margaret didn&#039;t get &quot;reprimanded.&quot;  You even acknowledge her antagonism: &quot;Buddy, I think she meant YOU’RE the sociopath,..&quot;

&quot;Advocating the killing of your fellow Jews even under the guise of paraphrasing the Rambam is some pretty wingnutty behavior.&quot;
You have an article &quot;Obama Tightens Noose Around Settlements.&quot;  This can only mean only thing-you advocate the wholesale strangulation of your fellow Jews.  In my case, I was quoting one of the most influential Rabbis in Jewish history.

I am sure you are familiar with the Kamsa-Bar Kamsa story in the Talmud:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamsa_%26_Bar_Kamsa
The Talmud says specifically that because Bar Kamsa was not executed for having betrayed the Jews to the Romans, we have been exiled from our Land.  The Rabbis of the Talmud (Amoraim) are many orders more significant than those of the Rambam&#039;s generation.

&quot;He was an infinitely most flexible thinker than any settler or settler rabbi.&quot;
I&#039;d like to remind you that Rav Ovadya, who is the current leader of Sephardic Jewry, like the Rambam was 1,000 years ago, emphatically forbade the uprooting of Gush Katif.  Haredim (&quot;ultra-orthodox&quot;) are FAR from &quot;settler.&quot;  Most observant Jews here hold by this outlook-not just those in the territories.

I am certainly not trying to provoke the anger of the other commentators or the moderator, but I think the rules should be applied equally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Referring to someone as a sociopath is a violation of your &#8220;comment rules:&#8221;<br />
&#8220;1. insults, baiting, vulgarity, harassment or abuse directed toward the blog owner or other commenters are not tolerated.&#8221;<br />
I see, however, that Margaret didn&#8217;t get &#8220;reprimanded.&#8221;  You even acknowledge her antagonism: &#8220;Buddy, I think she meant YOU’RE the sociopath,..&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Advocating the killing of your fellow Jews even under the guise of paraphrasing the Rambam is some pretty wingnutty behavior.&#8221;<br />
You have an article &#8220;Obama Tightens Noose Around Settlements.&#8221;  This can only mean only thing-you advocate the wholesale strangulation of your fellow Jews.  In my case, I was quoting one of the most influential Rabbis in Jewish history.</p>
<p>I am sure you are familiar with the Kamsa-Bar Kamsa story in the Talmud:<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamsa_%26_Bar_Kamsa" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamsa_%26_Bar_Kamsa</a><br />
The Talmud says specifically that because Bar Kamsa was not executed for having betrayed the Jews to the Romans, we have been exiled from our Land.  The Rabbis of the Talmud (Amoraim) are many orders more significant than those of the Rambam&#8217;s generation.</p>
<p>&#8220;He was an infinitely most flexible thinker than any settler or settler rabbi.&#8221;<br />
I&#8217;d like to remind you that Rav Ovadya, who is the current leader of Sephardic Jewry, like the Rambam was 1,000 years ago, emphatically forbade the uprooting of Gush Katif.  Haredim (&#8220;ultra-orthodox&#8221;) are FAR from &#8220;settler.&#8221;  Most observant Jews here hold by this outlook-not just those in the territories.</p>
<p>I am certainly not trying to provoke the anger of the other commentators or the moderator, but I think the rules should be applied equally.</p>
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		<title>By: Margaret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margaret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 06:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amos, I am sorry for your problems.  You didn&#039;t ask for them, but here we are, and you have them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amos, I am sorry for your problems.  You didn&#8217;t ask for them, but here we are, and you have them.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 06:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buddy, I think she meant YOU&#039;RE the sociopath, not Dickerson.  Advocating the killing of your fellow Jews even under the guise of paraphrasing the Rambam is some pretty wingnutty behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buddy, I think she meant YOU&#8217;RE the sociopath, not Dickerson.  Advocating the killing of your fellow Jews even under the guise of paraphrasing the Rambam is some pretty wingnutty behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 06:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rambam, were he alive today, would be disgusted by anyone claiming that Israel must hold on to every inch of territory it conquered in 1967 even at the cost of thousands of Jewish lives.  He was an infinitely most flexible thinker than any settler or settler rabbi.

Your claim above makes Rambam out to be an acolyte of Meir Kahane, which is ludicrous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rambam, were he alive today, would be disgusted by anyone claiming that Israel must hold on to every inch of territory it conquered in 1967 even at the cost of thousands of Jewish lives.  He was an infinitely most flexible thinker than any settler or settler rabbi.</p>
<p>Your claim above makes Rambam out to be an acolyte of Meir Kahane, which is ludicrous.</p>
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		<title>By: Amos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 12:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Margaret

I don&#039;t know DICKERSON3870 personally, but I think the term &quot;sociopath&quot; is a bit strong.  I think it&#039;s just that many people, Jews among them, have misconceptions about Judaism and it leads to outrageous statements/behavior.  I think that it&#039;s critical to check out everything on a particular subject before coming to conclusions.  However, since the Torah establishes Jewish society, perhaps one who mocks its origins may, perhaps, be considered a sociopath.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Margaret</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know DICKERSON3870 personally, but I think the term &#8220;sociopath&#8221; is a bit strong.  I think it&#8217;s just that many people, Jews among them, have misconceptions about Judaism and it leads to outrageous statements/behavior.  I think that it&#8217;s critical to check out everything on a particular subject before coming to conclusions.  However, since the Torah establishes Jewish society, perhaps one who mocks its origins may, perhaps, be considered a sociopath.</p>
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