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	<title>Comments on: Avigdor Lieberman, Convicted Child Beater to be Israeli Foreign Minister</title>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 20:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s talk about your so-called &quot;civilized society&quot; and what happens in it. Three boys bully and beat up your son. You go and talk to the parents. They are apologetic and assure you it wont happen again. The next day, they beat your son up even worse. You again go to the parents and they say they will punish their children, apologize, and again assure you it won&#039;t happen again. Soon after, they beat your son even worse than before. This time you go to the police, you file charges, spend countless hours working through the bureaucracy of the court system ultimately for these boys to only get a month&#039;s worth of probation one year later. The next day, they beat the shit out of your son again. 

Sounds like a great society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s talk about your so-called &#8220;civilized society&#8221; and what happens in it. Three boys bully and beat up your son. You go and talk to the parents. They are apologetic and assure you it wont happen again. The next day, they beat your son up even worse. You again go to the parents and they say they will punish their children, apologize, and again assure you it won&#8217;t happen again. Soon after, they beat your son even worse than before. This time you go to the police, you file charges, spend countless hours working through the bureaucracy of the court system ultimately for these boys to only get a month&#8217;s worth of probation one year later. The next day, they beat the shit out of your son again. </p>
<p>Sounds like a great society.</p>
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		<title>By: Should Engel have met with controversial Israeli pol? &#124; Rockland Progressive Dems - The information site of the Rockland Progressive Democratic Caucus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Should Engel have met with controversial Israeli pol? &#124; Rockland Progressive Dems - The information site of the Rockland Progressive Democratic Caucus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] anti-Arabic and anti-Muslim. It&#8217;s threatening and alarming. Lieberman, who was convicted of assaulting and threatening a 12-year old boy in 2001 repeatedly acts in an aggressive manner when it comes to Israel&#8217;s neighbors, friendly [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] anti-Arabic and anti-Muslim. It&#8217;s threatening and alarming. Lieberman, who was convicted of assaulting and threatening a 12-year old boy in 2001 repeatedly acts in an aggressive manner when it comes to Israel&#8217;s neighbors, friendly [...]</p>
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		<title>By: PP@A@L@E@S@T@I@N@E</title>
		<link>http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2009/03/07/avigdor-lieberman-convicted-child-beater-to-be-israeli-foreign-minister/comment-page-1/#comment-108599</link>
		<dc:creator>PP@A@L@E@S@T@I@N@E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HHistory can remind us how germans stood up cheering for Hitlar and after that became so regretful for backing up such a dictatorate who used a very national slogans that cheated people up and then it turns out that he drove them to the way of destruction, Israelis should be so smart in not allowing Liberman to practice his extreme inclanations on a whole nation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HHistory can remind us how germans stood up cheering for Hitlar and after that became so regretful for backing up such a dictatorate who used a very national slogans that cheated people up and then it turns out that he drove them to the way of destruction, Israelis should be so smart in not allowing Liberman to practice his extreme inclanations on a whole nation.</p>
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		<title>By: Israel's New Government &#124; MarcGopin.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Israel's New Government &#124; MarcGopin.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Records on Lieberman&#8217;s conviction for beating up a boy who fought with his son can be found here. This will be interesting. Everything has consequences, and the scientific laws of causality, the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Records on Lieberman&#8217;s conviction for beating up a boy who fought with his son can be found here. This will be interesting. Everything has consequences, and the scientific laws of causality, the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Amos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently the kids who beat up Lieberman&#039;s younger kid didn&#039;t have alternative ways to solve the problem.  Furthermore, one&#039;s profession doesn&#039;t necessarily dictate one&#039;s capability.  A good case in point: Christopher Langan, with an I.Q. of between 195 and 210, who is a bouncer himself!  Or, more locally, Prof. Avraham Trakhtman, a 63-year-old mathematics professor at Bar-Ilan University, who worked as a guard for about five years after his aliya from the former Soviet Union in 1990, who solved an abstract math problem that has befuddled experts for the last 38 years.  Obviously being a professional fundraiser doesn&#039;t prevent some from writing well-written articles either!

@Richard:    
The Border Police are officially part of the Israeli government and are not &quot;settlers.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently the kids who beat up Lieberman&#8217;s younger kid didn&#8217;t have alternative ways to solve the problem.  Furthermore, one&#8217;s profession doesn&#8217;t necessarily dictate one&#8217;s capability.  A good case in point: Christopher Langan, with an I.Q. of between 195 and 210, who is a bouncer himself!  Or, more locally, Prof. Avraham Trakhtman, a 63-year-old mathematics professor at Bar-Ilan University, who worked as a guard for about five years after his aliya from the former Soviet Union in 1990, who solved an abstract math problem that has befuddled experts for the last 38 years.  Obviously being a professional fundraiser doesn&#8217;t prevent some from writing well-written articles either!</p>
<p>@Richard:<br />
The Border Police are officially part of the Israeli government and are not &#8220;settlers.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 04:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;the reason you make such a big deal of this minor incident is because you hate Lieberman as a politian&lt;/blockquote&gt;
There is little diff. bet. Lieberman the politician &amp; Lieberman the man.  He&#039;s a &lt;em&gt;bulvan&lt;/em&gt; in both modes.

&lt;blockquote&gt;those solutions are only ones that work&lt;/blockquote&gt;
What &quot;solution&quot; of Lieberman&#039;s has ever &quot;worked?&quot;  Name a single one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>the reason you make such a big deal of this minor incident is because you hate Lieberman as a politian</p></blockquote>
<p>There is little diff. bet. Lieberman the politician &#038; Lieberman the man.  He&#8217;s a <em>bulvan</em> in both modes.</p>
<blockquote><p>those solutions are only ones that work</p></blockquote>
<p>What &#8220;solution&#8221; of Lieberman&#8217;s has ever &#8220;worked?&#8221;  Name a single one.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 04:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You are entitled to protect your family jewel.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Admittedly, I&#039;m not a former bouncer fr. Moldova &amp; don&#039;t use my fists to resolve arguments.  But I resolve such issues differently.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I’ve seen some of the best behavior-better than the USA-in the “Territories.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I&#039;ve heard of some splendid behavior in the Territories...12 yr old settler girls spitting on elderly Palestinian women.  Border Police forcing Palestinian shepherds to rape their donkeys (yes, this actually happened--I couldn&#039;t make it up if I tried).  Teenage girls shot in the head at point blank range by Border Police.  Splendid behavior I tell you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You are entitled to protect your family jewel.</p></blockquote>
<p>Admittedly, I&#8217;m not a former bouncer fr. Moldova &#038; don&#8217;t use my fists to resolve arguments.  But I resolve such issues differently.</p>
<blockquote><p>I’ve seen some of the best behavior-better than the USA-in the “Territories.”</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard of some splendid behavior in the Territories&#8230;12 yr old settler girls spitting on elderly Palestinian women.  Border Police forcing Palestinian shepherds to rape their donkeys (yes, this actually happened&#8211;I couldn&#8217;t make it up if I tried).  Teenage girls shot in the head at point blank range by Border Police.  Splendid behavior I tell you.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Richard
I absolutely agree with Amos. He was just protecting his own son, well, perhaps... a little rough way. But that worked! And by the way, he paid a fine because of that, which I&#039;m sure sutisfied &quot;the other side&quot;. 
  By, anyway, the reason you make such a big deal of this minor incident is because you hate Lieberman as a politian- it&#039;s clear for me!
  I think he is a great politian, because he is a real patriot of Israel, and because in the real world very often you have to apply tough and rough solutions of some of the problems, not because those solutions are good(they might be bad sometimes!), but because those solutions are only ones that work!- in the private life and in the politics...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Richard<br />
I absolutely agree with Amos. He was just protecting his own son, well, perhaps&#8230; a little rough way. But that worked! And by the way, he paid a fine because of that, which I&#8217;m sure sutisfied &#8220;the other side&#8221;.<br />
  By, anyway, the reason you make such a big deal of this minor incident is because you hate Lieberman as a politian- it&#8217;s clear for me!<br />
  I think he is a great politian, because he is a real patriot of Israel, and because in the real world very often you have to apply tough and rough solutions of some of the problems, not because those solutions are good(they might be bad sometimes!), but because those solutions are only ones that work!- in the private life and in the politics&#8230;</p>
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