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		<title>By: amir</title>
		<link>http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2009/02/27/lies-damn-lies-and-avigdor-lieberman/comment-page-1/#comment-107310</link>
		<dc:creator>amir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 18:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, Alex.</description>
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		<title>By: amir</title>
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		<dc:creator>amir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 18:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not for Lieberman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not for Lieberman.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 07:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Everything is done to try and explain away heinous behavior by Palestinians; everything is done to try and exaggerate heinous behaviour by Israelis (yesterday, for example, we had Lieberman as Stalin)&lt;/blockquote&gt;
First, I don&#039;t do &quot;everything&quot; to &quot;explain away&quot; Palestinian bad behavior.  In fact, I acknowledge it repetitively &amp; I get oh so tired of having to remind the myriad of readers like you who make the same false charge.

Second, I certainly would not have compared Lieberman to Stalin had he himself not likened the Israeli police to the NKVD.  Don&#039;t you think Lieberman deserves his share of blame for such histrionics?  Lieberman admittedly isn&#039;t a full blown Stalin.  He&#039;s not in the same league of megalomania and would make a much smaller version even if he ever came to power.  But Lieberman is certainly much closer to Stalin than the Israeli police is to the NKVD.

&lt;blockquote&gt;the babbling prince at his throne.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
My comment rules do not permit ad hominem attacks.  Stick to the issues or you&#039;ll wear out yr welcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Everything is done to try and explain away heinous behavior by Palestinians; everything is done to try and exaggerate heinous behaviour by Israelis (yesterday, for example, we had Lieberman as Stalin)</p></blockquote>
<p>First, I don&#8217;t do &#8220;everything&#8221; to &#8220;explain away&#8221; Palestinian bad behavior.  In fact, I acknowledge it repetitively &#038; I get oh so tired of having to remind the myriad of readers like you who make the same false charge.</p>
<p>Second, I certainly would not have compared Lieberman to Stalin had he himself not likened the Israeli police to the NKVD.  Don&#8217;t you think Lieberman deserves his share of blame for such histrionics?  Lieberman admittedly isn&#8217;t a full blown Stalin.  He&#8217;s not in the same league of megalomania and would make a much smaller version even if he ever came to power.  But Lieberman is certainly much closer to Stalin than the Israeli police is to the NKVD.</p>
<blockquote><p>the babbling prince at his throne.</p></blockquote>
<p>My comment rules do not permit ad hominem attacks.  Stick to the issues or you&#8217;ll wear out yr welcome.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Stein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Stein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 06:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you don&#039;t plan discussing it then you shouldn&#039;t post a response. So here&#039;s my two cents - needless to say, you don&#039;t have to respond.

Read more carefully - the piece is primarily about media reactions, so your point about US/Israeli policy isn&#039;t so relevant. 

The problem with your blog is not the policies it espouses (mostly). It&#039;s the double intellectual standard. Everything is done to try and explain away heinous behavior by Palestinians; everything is done to try and exaggerate heinous behaviour by Israelis (yesterday, for example, we had Lieberman as Stalin). Here&#039;s another great example: &quot;Lieberman is a racist thug. Hamas has its fair share of thugs.&quot; Racist thugs, would you say? A strange ommission in the context of the comparison. 

It&#039;s a shame that you can&#039;t just rationally analyse the heinous behavior of both sides. I understand that there is no equivalence, that Israel is the stronger party and the occupier, and that you are - rightfully - primarily concerned with Israeli behavior. But none of this excuses the fundamental lack of maturity in your analysis. It&#039;s like reading something by an apoplectic (to use a word you enjoy so much) undergraduate. 

&quot;Lazy&quot;, &quot;lameness&quot;, &quot;worthless&quot; - par for the course as far as you are concerned. Epithets in place of rationally discussing the issue; your raging arrogance laid bare, the babbling prince at his throne.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you don&#8217;t plan discussing it then you shouldn&#8217;t post a response. So here&#8217;s my two cents &#8211; needless to say, you don&#8217;t have to respond.</p>
<p>Read more carefully &#8211; the piece is primarily about media reactions, so your point about US/Israeli policy isn&#8217;t so relevant. </p>
<p>The problem with your blog is not the policies it espouses (mostly). It&#8217;s the double intellectual standard. Everything is done to try and explain away heinous behavior by Palestinians; everything is done to try and exaggerate heinous behaviour by Israelis (yesterday, for example, we had Lieberman as Stalin). Here&#8217;s another great example: &#8220;Lieberman is a racist thug. Hamas has its fair share of thugs.&#8221; Racist thugs, would you say? A strange ommission in the context of the comparison. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a shame that you can&#8217;t just rationally analyse the heinous behavior of both sides. I understand that there is no equivalence, that Israel is the stronger party and the occupier, and that you are &#8211; rightfully &#8211; primarily concerned with Israeli behavior. But none of this excuses the fundamental lack of maturity in your analysis. It&#8217;s like reading something by an apoplectic (to use a word you enjoy so much) undergraduate. </p>
<p>&#8220;Lazy&#8221;, &#8220;lameness&#8221;, &#8220;worthless&#8221; &#8211; par for the course as far as you are concerned. Epithets in place of rationally discussing the issue; your raging arrogance laid bare, the babbling prince at his throne.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 06:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, but this is more lameness.  This CiF piece fits perfectly into the Harry&#039;s Place perspective on the I-P conflict.  It is lazy and worthless from the get go.  This writer attempts to argue that no one in the world expressed profound alarm when Hamas won the PA elections in 2006.  Is she forgetting that Israel and the U.S. both went apoplectic &amp; warned the world of the impeding disaster this would mean?  Not to mention that both countries began preparing to sponsor a Fatah coup against Hamas.

Lieberman is a racist thug.  Hamas too has its share of thugs.  But many of the leaders of Hamas are more pragmatic than Lieberman is.  To argue, as she does, that there is a double standard in that the world labels Lieberman for what he is while refusing to acknowledge that Hamas is just as bad is a dead end argument.  I don&#039;t romanticize Hamas.  I know what it is and what its weaknesses are.  Lieberman is worse especially if he ever gets real power.

Zeev Sternhell has argued that Lieberman is the most dangerous politician in the history of the State of Israel.  I&#039;m not sure he&#039;s right, but if he&#039;s wrong he&#039;s not off by much.

I don&#039;t plan on arguing about this article with you here.  So if you want to do so you&#039;ll have to find others to argue with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but this is more lameness.  This CiF piece fits perfectly into the Harry&#8217;s Place perspective on the I-P conflict.  It is lazy and worthless from the get go.  This writer attempts to argue that no one in the world expressed profound alarm when Hamas won the PA elections in 2006.  Is she forgetting that Israel and the U.S. both went apoplectic &amp; warned the world of the impeding disaster this would mean?  Not to mention that both countries began preparing to sponsor a Fatah coup against Hamas.</p>
<p>Lieberman is a racist thug.  Hamas too has its share of thugs.  But many of the leaders of Hamas are more pragmatic than Lieberman is.  To argue, as she does, that there is a double standard in that the world labels Lieberman for what he is while refusing to acknowledge that Hamas is just as bad is a dead end argument.  I don&#8217;t romanticize Hamas.  I know what it is and what its weaknesses are.  Lieberman is worse especially if he ever gets real power.</p>
<p>Zeev Sternhell has argued that Lieberman is the most dangerous politician in the history of the State of Israel.  I&#8217;m not sure he&#8217;s right, but if he&#8217;s wrong he&#8217;s not off by much.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t plan on arguing about this article with you here.  So if you want to do so you&#8217;ll have to find others to argue with.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
		<link>http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2009/02/27/lies-damn-lies-and-avigdor-lieberman/comment-page-1/#comment-107284</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 05:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spoken as the obstinate ideologue you are.  When challenged completely deny any context to your actions.  You&#039;re carrying water for Avigdor Lieberman and Yisrael Beitenu.  Who did you vote for?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spoken as the obstinate ideologue you are.  When challenged completely deny any context to your actions.  You&#8217;re carrying water for Avigdor Lieberman and Yisrael Beitenu.  Who did you vote for?</p>
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		<title>By: amir</title>
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		<dc:creator>amir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not at all. Fact checking you and making true statements does not make me an apologist for anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not at all. Fact checking you and making true statements does not make me an apologist for anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Lies, Damn Lies and Avigdor Lieberman &#8212; will to truth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lies, Damn Lies and Avigdor Lieberman &#8212; will to truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] by Richard Silverstein on February 27th, 2009 &#124; in Israeli-Palestinian conflict, Tikun Olam-תקון [...]</description>
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