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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 06:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do so love non-Jews who tell me how to be a better Jew.  Do I tell them they&#039;re bad Christians?  Have they ever heard of minding their own business?  &quot;Most likely you&#039;ll go your way &amp; I&#039;ll go mine.&quot;

&lt;blockquote&gt;I hate the destruction and death in Gaza, too. But THINK! What is Israel to do?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
If I had a dollar for every time I&#039;ve heard this hackneyed, trite, and stupid phrase I&#039;d be a rich Jew.

&lt;blockquote&gt;They don’t recognize Israel’s right to exist.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Uh, no.  That&#039;s not right unless you&#039;ve been reading CAMERA &amp; MEMRI.  Hamas has made it quite clear that they would be prepared to live in peace if Israel withdrew to &#039;67 boundaries.

&lt;blockquote&gt;They think we stole their land, and want the whole thing.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Yes, to the first.  No to the second.  You&#039;ve been reading too much Little Green Footballs or John Hagee.

&lt;blockquote&gt;This is not about the settlements.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Says who?  You?  Would you concede the Palestinians have a far diff. perspective on this?  And that you might not have a clue what you&#039;re talking about??

&lt;blockquote&gt;You don;t hear much these days about the Palestinians wanting “a two state solution” &lt;/blockquote&gt;
You mean YOU don&#039;t hear much about this.  Others of us who are a bit more widely read know that there are still Palestinians who would accept a 2 state solution, though they &amp; many Jews are beginning to despair of this option being possible.

&lt;blockquote&gt;They will simply never be happy until they have all of Israel.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Are you Karnak that you can read their mind??  What gives you such telepathic powers?

&lt;blockquote&gt;And you know what? They can’t have it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Well, that settles it.  I&#039;ll be sure to tell Hamas that you&#039;ve made clear who&#039;s boss &amp; they&#039;ll surely surrender the moment they hear your definitive comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do so love non-Jews who tell me how to be a better Jew.  Do I tell them they&#8217;re bad Christians?  Have they ever heard of minding their own business?  &#8220;Most likely you&#8217;ll go your way &amp; I&#8217;ll go mine.&#8221;</p>
<blockquote><p>I hate the destruction and death in Gaza, too. But THINK! What is Israel to do?</p></blockquote>
<p>If I had a dollar for every time I&#8217;ve heard this hackneyed, trite, and stupid phrase I&#8217;d be a rich Jew.</p>
<blockquote><p>They don’t recognize Israel’s right to exist.</p></blockquote>
<p>Uh, no.  That&#8217;s not right unless you&#8217;ve been reading CAMERA &amp; MEMRI.  Hamas has made it quite clear that they would be prepared to live in peace if Israel withdrew to &#8217;67 boundaries.</p>
<blockquote><p>They think we stole their land, and want the whole thing.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, to the first.  No to the second.  You&#8217;ve been reading too much Little Green Footballs or John Hagee.</p>
<blockquote><p>This is not about the settlements.</p></blockquote>
<p>Says who?  You?  Would you concede the Palestinians have a far diff. perspective on this?  And that you might not have a clue what you&#8217;re talking about??</p>
<blockquote><p>You don;t hear much these days about the Palestinians wanting “a two state solution” </p></blockquote>
<p>You mean YOU don&#8217;t hear much about this.  Others of us who are a bit more widely read know that there are still Palestinians who would accept a 2 state solution, though they &amp; many Jews are beginning to despair of this option being possible.</p>
<blockquote><p>They will simply never be happy until they have all of Israel.</p></blockquote>
<p>Are you Karnak that you can read their mind??  What gives you such telepathic powers?</p>
<blockquote><p>And you know what? They can’t have it.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, that settles it.  I&#8217;ll be sure to tell Hamas that you&#8217;ve made clear who&#8217;s boss &amp; they&#8217;ll surely surrender the moment they hear your definitive comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 05:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rich, I have just been reading about this American Jewish Ad Campaign. I have looked at the websites where you guys ask for money, I have seen the anti-Israel books which are promoted, and I see a much darker, deeper agenda. You are sleeping with the enemy, my friend. You think these people recognize Israels right to exist???! 

Shame. On. You.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rich, I have just been reading about this American Jewish Ad Campaign. I have looked at the websites where you guys ask for money, I have seen the anti-Israel books which are promoted, and I see a much darker, deeper agenda. You are sleeping with the enemy, my friend. You think these people recognize Israels right to exist???! </p>
<p>Shame. On. You.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 05:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys have no problem criticizing Israel - your own brothers! Yet you don&#039;t have to run to bomb shelters every day to avoid Hamas rockets. I hate the destruction and death in Gaza, too. But THINK! What is Israel to do? The Palestinians have made it very clear in their election of Hamas, and on most blogs and opinion columns: They don&#039;t recognize Israel&#039;s right to exist. They think we stole their land, and want the whole thing. This is not about the settlements. It&#039;s about Israel proper, and who belongs there. You don;t hear much these days about the Palestinians wanting &quot;a two state solution&quot; or &quot;peace with their Jewish neighbor&quot; because they don&#039;t want peace. And even those who do preach a two-state solution will never get it because the extemists are such a large percentage of the Palestinian population. They will simply never be happy until they have all of Israel. And you know what? They can&#039;t have it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys have no problem criticizing Israel &#8211; your own brothers! Yet you don&#8217;t have to run to bomb shelters every day to avoid Hamas rockets. I hate the destruction and death in Gaza, too. But THINK! What is Israel to do? The Palestinians have made it very clear in their election of Hamas, and on most blogs and opinion columns: They don&#8217;t recognize Israel&#8217;s right to exist. They think we stole their land, and want the whole thing. This is not about the settlements. It&#8217;s about Israel proper, and who belongs there. You don;t hear much these days about the Palestinians wanting &#8220;a two state solution&#8221; or &#8220;peace with their Jewish neighbor&#8221; because they don&#8217;t want peace. And even those who do preach a two-state solution will never get it because the extemists are such a large percentage of the Palestinian population. They will simply never be happy until they have all of Israel. And you know what? They can&#8217;t have it.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea Moriah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrea Moriah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 11:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all I have a BIG problem with groups like the Hebron Fund meddling in our politics.  I am neither right-wing or religious.  You assume too much about my thoughts and think too much of your own bravery in speaking out.  It&#039;s not too brave to &quot;be direct&quot; when you don&#039;t have to suffer the consequences.  I have American citizenship and can vote in US elections.  But I don&#039;t.  I don&#039;t live there; I don&#039;t have to take responsibility for my actions; so I have no right to vote for leadership, protest US action in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, or elsewhere.  As for you taking responsibility for your actions regarding Israel,  how do you figure that?  Do you have to live with the consequences of your actions?  Nope -- I do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all I have a BIG problem with groups like the Hebron Fund meddling in our politics.  I am neither right-wing or religious.  You assume too much about my thoughts and think too much of your own bravery in speaking out.  It&#8217;s not too brave to &#8220;be direct&#8221; when you don&#8217;t have to suffer the consequences.  I have American citizenship and can vote in US elections.  But I don&#8217;t.  I don&#8217;t live there; I don&#8217;t have to take responsibility for my actions; so I have no right to vote for leadership, protest US action in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, or elsewhere.  As for you taking responsibility for your actions regarding Israel,  how do you figure that?  Do you have to live with the consequences of your actions?  Nope &#8212; I do.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 08:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Influence on American policy for Israel and money for social projects is fine and appreciated — but mixing it up in our politics or criticism of our policies is out of your range if you do not live here to take the consequences.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
No, no, no.  YOu don&#039;t get to take and then get to set the parameters of the relationship.  It&#039;s a package deal.  YOu take from American Jews and America in general, you accept our involvement in Israel in general whether you like it or not.

I&#039;ll bet you don&#039;t have any problem with U.S. groups like the Hebron Fund intervening in Israeli politics.  That&#039;s kosher.  But when American Jews who don&#039;t share your politics intervene, then it&#039;s treif.  That double standard doesn&#039;t work I&#039;m afraid.  

And I&#039;m not asking for yr permission to express my views about Israeli politics.  I&#039;ll do it whether you like it or not.  Your views harken back decades to when Zionism reigned supreme.  If you didn&#039;t make aliya Israelis said you had no say in Israel.  Amazing how Israelis claim Israel is the central address of Jewish life and identity &amp; then refuse to listen to Diaspora Jews who take this matter seriously and attempt to envision an Israel that would make all of world Jewry proud.

I do take responsibility for my beliefs regarding Israel.  If I wasn&#039;t dead serious about my connection to Israel do you think I&#039;d waste my time writing about it?  And I certainly will NOT be circumspect in what I say about Israel.  I will be forthright.  I will be clear.  I will be direct.  Like it or not.  That&#039;s what I&#039;ll be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Influence on American policy for Israel and money for social projects is fine and appreciated — but mixing it up in our politics or criticism of our policies is out of your range if you do not live here to take the consequences.</p></blockquote>
<p>No, no, no.  YOu don&#8217;t get to take and then get to set the parameters of the relationship.  It&#8217;s a package deal.  YOu take from American Jews and America in general, you accept our involvement in Israel in general whether you like it or not.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll bet you don&#8217;t have any problem with U.S. groups like the Hebron Fund intervening in Israeli politics.  That&#8217;s kosher.  But when American Jews who don&#8217;t share your politics intervene, then it&#8217;s treif.  That double standard doesn&#8217;t work I&#8217;m afraid.  </p>
<p>And I&#8217;m not asking for yr permission to express my views about Israeli politics.  I&#8217;ll do it whether you like it or not.  Your views harken back decades to when Zionism reigned supreme.  If you didn&#8217;t make aliya Israelis said you had no say in Israel.  Amazing how Israelis claim Israel is the central address of Jewish life and identity &amp; then refuse to listen to Diaspora Jews who take this matter seriously and attempt to envision an Israel that would make all of world Jewry proud.</p>
<p>I do take responsibility for my beliefs regarding Israel.  If I wasn&#8217;t dead serious about my connection to Israel do you think I&#8217;d waste my time writing about it?  And I certainly will NOT be circumspect in what I say about Israel.  I will be forthright.  I will be clear.  I will be direct.  Like it or not.  That&#8217;s what I&#8217;ll be.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea Moriah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrea Moriah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 07:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reply to Richard Silverstein

I didn&#039;t say anything about the uselessness of the Diaspora nor the primacy of Israel in Jewish life -- that&#039;s your read.  Influence on American policy for Israel and money for social projects is fine and appreciated -- but mixing it up in our politics or criticism of our policies is out of your range if you do not live here to take the consequences.  It&#039;s not to silence you or disenfranchise you; it&#039;s simply that you don&#039;t have to take the responsibilty for your actions and therefore should be circumspect about what you say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reply to Richard Silverstein</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t say anything about the uselessness of the Diaspora nor the primacy of Israel in Jewish life &#8212; that&#8217;s your read.  Influence on American policy for Israel and money for social projects is fine and appreciated &#8212; but mixing it up in our politics or criticism of our policies is out of your range if you do not live here to take the consequences.  It&#8217;s not to silence you or disenfranchise you; it&#8217;s simply that you don&#8217;t have to take the responsibilty for your actions and therefore should be circumspect about what you say.</p>
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		<title>By: Tawfique Choudury - That which no eyes have seen! islamic lecture about Jennah paradise PART 5 &#124; IslamLecture</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tawfique Choudury - That which no eyes have seen! islamic lecture about Jennah paradise PART 5 &#124; IslamLecture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 13:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 06:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is one of the oldest useless arguments in the book to attempt to disenfranchise Diaspora Jews from their right to speak out about issues affecting Israel.  Interesting that when it&#039;s convenient you Israelis are happy to have our money, our influence, etc. to help.  But when we say things you find inconvenient then you whip out the classical Zionist tenet about the uselessness of the Diaspora and the primacy of Israel in Jewish life.  How many ways can you spell h-y-p-o-c-r-i-t-e?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one of the oldest useless arguments in the book to attempt to disenfranchise Diaspora Jews from their right to speak out about issues affecting Israel.  Interesting that when it&#8217;s convenient you Israelis are happy to have our money, our influence, etc. to help.  But when we say things you find inconvenient then you whip out the classical Zionist tenet about the uselessness of the Diaspora and the primacy of Israel in Jewish life.  How many ways can you spell h-y-p-o-c-r-i-t-e?</p>
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