Comments on: Israel Invades Gaza: Going for the Hamas Kill? http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2009/01/04/israel-invades-gaza-going-for-the-hamas-kill/ Essays on politics, culture and ideas about Israeli-Arab peace and world music Mon, 13 Feb 2012 04:07:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Aaron http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2009/01/04/israel-invades-gaza-going-for-the-hamas-kill/comment-page-2/#comment-117215 Aaron Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:00:15 +0000 http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/?p=5583#comment-117215 "can the rockets really be stopped for any length of time while Hamas remains in power in Gaza?" There was a 5 month ceasefire between Hamas and Israel before the invasion. In the 3 months before, there wasn't a single casualty on either side. Israel failed to ease the economic sanctions promised if Hamas stopped the rockets. And who broke the ceasefire? Israel, on Nov 4, 2008, the same day the rest of the world was distracted with the US elections. “can the rockets really be stopped for any length of time while Hamas remains in power in Gaza?”

There was a 5 month ceasefire between Hamas and Israel before the invasion. In the 3 months before, there wasn’t a single casualty on either side. Israel failed to ease the economic sanctions promised if Hamas stopped the rockets. And who broke the ceasefire? Israel, on Nov 4, 2008, the same day the rest of the world was distracted with the US elections.

]]> By: ezart http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2009/01/04/israel-invades-gaza-going-for-the-hamas-kill/comment-page-2/#comment-105600 ezart Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:43:44 +0000 http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/?p=5583#comment-105600 · do you know which country in the world allows itself to break all the international law and treaty · do you know which country allows itself to kill children, elderly, woman without being blamed. and the world give it excuse because of the holocaust!, we all know that the holocaust is a big things but it does not mean that the Israeli can kill, destroy home and occupy land not belong to them. They can do that at any time. Till when we keep give them excuse. Most of the Israeli live in occupied land! We all know about Hamas Missiles toward the “innocent Israeli”, have you ever asked where this missiles lunched to , these missiles are launched toward on occupied land “stolen land from the Palestinian”. Most people in Gaza are living in camps. Their original home are occupied and stolen by the Israeli The Israeli can kill any person in Gaza for no excuse, a lot of incidence happened where the Israeli soldiers killed children for just having fun. The only way the Palestinian can defend themselves are these locally made missiles, comparing with the most advanced missiles the Israeli are using to kill or horrify people in Gaza Israeli prevent Petrol, Hospital supply, even the basic food supply on 1.5 million in Gaza, have you ever thing that is it really these missiles is the reason or there is more big reason behind that!! If you look back on the history of the Israeli, if they want to occupy land they do massacres so the people can flee and leave the lands for them, “Dir Yassin, Bea’r Sabah and etc..”. Till when we keep giving them excuse! · do you know which country in the world allows itself to break all the international law and treaty

· do you know which country allows itself to kill children, elderly, woman without being blamed.

and the world give it excuse because of the holocaust!, we all know that the holocaust is a big things but it does not mean that the Israeli can kill, destroy home and occupy land not belong to them. They can do that at any time.

Till when we keep give them excuse.

Most of the Israeli live in occupied land!

We all know about Hamas Missiles toward the “innocent Israeli”, have you ever asked where this missiles lunched to , these missiles are launched toward on occupied land “stolen land from the Palestinian”.

Most people in Gaza are living in camps. Their original home are occupied and stolen by the Israeli

The Israeli can kill any person in Gaza for no excuse, a lot of incidence happened where the Israeli soldiers killed children for just having fun.

The only way the Palestinian can defend themselves are these locally made missiles, comparing with the most advanced missiles the Israeli are using to kill or horrify people in Gaza

Israeli prevent Petrol, Hospital supply, even the basic food supply on 1.5 million in Gaza, have you ever thing that is it really these missiles is the reason or there is more big reason behind that!!

If you look back on the history of the Israeli, if they want to occupy land they do massacres so the people can flee and leave the lands for them, “Dir Yassin, Bea’r Sabah and etc..”.
Till when we keep giving them excuse!

]]> By: Richard Silverstein http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2009/01/04/israel-invades-gaza-going-for-the-hamas-kill/comment-page-1/#comment-105503 Richard Silverstein Tue, 06 Jan 2009 09:30:48 +0000 http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/?p=5583#comment-105503 @ellen: Sorry, but that simply can't possibly be right. Even if you included Israeli Arabs in the poll (who would be less supportive), there's no possible way the response would only be 46%. But I'd be happy to see a link & review that further. Now, if more Israeli soldiers die then support could rapidly decline--in fact it would decline. But that remains to be seen. @ellen: Sorry, but that simply can’t possibly be right. Even if you included Israeli Arabs in the poll (who would be less supportive), there’s no possible way the response would only be 46%. But I’d be happy to see a link & review that further.

Now, if more Israeli soldiers die then support could rapidly decline–in fact it would decline. But that remains to be seen.

]]> By: Neil http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2009/01/04/israel-invades-gaza-going-for-the-hamas-kill/comment-page-1/#comment-105468 Neil Mon, 05 Jan 2009 15:05:28 +0000 http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/?p=5583#comment-105468 Suzanne: Moving piece by Levy indeed.If more Israeli's felt like Mr Levy then think the whole situation would have been much better. Suzanne:

Moving piece by Levy indeed.If more Israeli’s felt like Mr Levy then think the whole situation would have been much better.

]]> By: Suzanne http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2009/01/04/israel-invades-gaza-going-for-the-hamas-kill/comment-page-1/#comment-105466 Suzanne Mon, 05 Jan 2009 14:38:27 +0000 http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/?p=5583#comment-105466 Forgot to say that Ethan Bronner's reporting has been quite good and thank you for conceding that here. Also Gideon Levy's piece on the blood pipline test ( And There Lie the Bodies" is moving- someone mentioned this above and gave the link. Forgot to say that Ethan Bronner’s reporting has been quite good and thank you for conceding that here.

Also Gideon Levy’s piece on the blood pipline test ( And There Lie the Bodies” is moving- someone mentioned this above and gave the link.

]]> By: Suzanne http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2009/01/04/israel-invades-gaza-going-for-the-hamas-kill/comment-page-1/#comment-105465 Suzanne Mon, 05 Jan 2009 14:32:24 +0000 http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/?p=5583#comment-105465 I suspect that the initial intentions were not as stated but actually to destroy Hamas. I think they had to be careful about stating the goals b/c success or failure would/will be judged accordingly. If that is not the case then perhaps the body chemistries of the PM, Defense minister, generals, are changing as they go for the gold. Of course it is a "grand delusion"-- great phrase. I suspect that the initial intentions were not as stated but actually to destroy Hamas. I think they had to be careful about stating the goals b/c success or failure would/will be judged accordingly.

If that is not the case then perhaps the body chemistries of the PM, Defense minister, generals, are changing as they go for the gold.

Of course it is a “grand delusion”– great phrase.

]]> By: ellen http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2009/01/04/israel-invades-gaza-going-for-the-hamas-kill/comment-page-1/#comment-105462 ellen Mon, 05 Jan 2009 13:20:56 +0000 http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/?p=5583#comment-105462 Richard, In an earlier post you said that acc to a poll 86% of Israelis supported the assault. This morning I heard on Pacifica radio that a Ha'aretz poll indicates only 46% of Israelis supported the air offensive, and that opposition to the ground war is growing. I can only hope that the latter poll is correct. ellen Richard,
In an earlier post you said that acc to a poll 86% of Israelis supported the assault. This morning I heard on Pacifica radio that a Ha’aretz poll indicates only 46% of Israelis supported the air offensive, and that opposition to the ground war is growing. I can only hope that the latter poll is correct.

ellen

]]> By: Norman Weinstein http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2009/01/04/israel-invades-gaza-going-for-the-hamas-kill/comment-page-1/#comment-105461 Norman Weinstein Mon, 05 Jan 2009 13:11:54 +0000 http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/?p=5583#comment-105461 Peter H, your statement above strikes me as right-on. I envy its succinctness. Peter H, your statement above strikes me as right-on. I envy its succinctness.

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