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	<title>Comments on: Gaza Death Toll: 375 Palestinians, 4 Israelis</title>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 08:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ezra: &lt;blockquote&gt;protecting Israel’s&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You&#039;ll have to forgive me for asking &quot;what protection?&quot;  YOu think the missiles will end and that this operation will make Israel safer?  Who are you kidding?  Where there is a will to fight Israel there will be a way to fight.  That means they could wipe out every able-bodied male in Gaza and some Palestinian somewhere in the world would raise his head to take revenge.  THe IDF cannot protect Israel in the end.  ONly neogiations &amp; a peace agreement can protect Israel.

Bitter?  Me bitter?  That Israel is defiling the progressive Zionist vision advanced by Ahad Ha Am, Martin Buber &amp; others?  Why should I be bitter that Jews are killing Palestinian civilians en masse.  If I were you I&#039;d be proud, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ezra:<br />
<blockquote>protecting Israel’s</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;ll have to forgive me for asking &#8220;what protection?&#8221;  YOu think the missiles will end and that this operation will make Israel safer?  Who are you kidding?  Where there is a will to fight Israel there will be a way to fight.  That means they could wipe out every able-bodied male in Gaza and some Palestinian somewhere in the world would raise his head to take revenge.  THe IDF cannot protect Israel in the end.  ONly neogiations &#038; a peace agreement can protect Israel.</p>
<p>Bitter?  Me bitter?  That Israel is defiling the progressive Zionist vision advanced by Ahad Ha Am, Martin Buber &#038; others?  Why should I be bitter that Jews are killing Palestinian civilians en masse.  If I were you I&#8217;d be proud, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 07:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Elizabeth (Liz) Berney, Esq.: &lt;blockquote&gt;seven years of continual deadly rocket attacks from Gaza&lt;/blockquote&gt;
More lies from the pro-Israel extreme right.  There were rocket attacks, yes.  They were not &quot;continual.&quot;
&lt;blockquote&gt;over 3,000 Qassam rockets and 2500 morters were fired from Gaza at Israeli targets, mainly against Sderot and surrounding areas, killing 23 Israelis, and injuring 433 Israelis&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You naturally provide no documentation of your casualty claim.  I heard the figure of 18 dead from such attacks.  But no matter...let&#039;s compare, shall we, the number of Palestinian civilians killed by the IDF in the same period.  The number fluctuates from yr to yr &amp; I don&#039;t have the exact figures in front of me but a conservative estimate would be 300 per yr. which would mean that over 2,000 Palestinian civilians were killed by the IDF in the same period.  That&#039;s roughly 2,000 compared to 18 (or 23 if we accept yr figure).  That&#039;s roughly 100 Palestinians killed for every Israeli.  What&#039;s wrong with this picture??

All yr anecdotal accounts of the tragedy inflicted by terrorists against Israelis are tragic.  But why no sympathy or list of any Palestinians killed?  COuld it be that Palestinians aren&#039;t worthy of Jewish sympathy?  Or are their deaths their own fault?  That&#039;s nice work if you can get it:  Israeli terror deaths are Hamas&#039; fault and Palestinian deaths at the hands of the IDF are Hamas&#039; fault as well.  You&#039;ve got everything tied up in nice bow don&#039;t you?

You&#039;re a pathetic, heartless apologist.  And a chum of Mort Klein no less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Elizabeth (Liz) Berney, Esq.:<br />
<blockquote>seven years of continual deadly rocket attacks from Gaza</p></blockquote>
<p>More lies from the pro-Israel extreme right.  There were rocket attacks, yes.  They were not &#8220;continual.&#8221;</p>
<blockquote><p>over 3,000 Qassam rockets and 2500 morters were fired from Gaza at Israeli targets, mainly against Sderot and surrounding areas, killing 23 Israelis, and injuring 433 Israelis</p></blockquote>
<p>You naturally provide no documentation of your casualty claim.  I heard the figure of 18 dead from such attacks.  But no matter&#8230;let&#8217;s compare, shall we, the number of Palestinian civilians killed by the IDF in the same period.  The number fluctuates from yr to yr &#038; I don&#8217;t have the exact figures in front of me but a conservative estimate would be 300 per yr. which would mean that over 2,000 Palestinian civilians were killed by the IDF in the same period.  That&#8217;s roughly 2,000 compared to 18 (or 23 if we accept yr figure).  That&#8217;s roughly 100 Palestinians killed for every Israeli.  What&#8217;s wrong with this picture??</p>
<p>All yr anecdotal accounts of the tragedy inflicted by terrorists against Israelis are tragic.  But why no sympathy or list of any Palestinians killed?  COuld it be that Palestinians aren&#8217;t worthy of Jewish sympathy?  Or are their deaths their own fault?  That&#8217;s nice work if you can get it:  Israeli terror deaths are Hamas&#8217; fault and Palestinian deaths at the hands of the IDF are Hamas&#8217; fault as well.  You&#8217;ve got everything tied up in nice bow don&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>You&#8217;re a pathetic, heartless apologist.  And a chum of Mort Klein no less.</p>
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		<title>By: ellen</title>
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		<dc:creator>ellen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding Obama,
I asked a member of the Obama group here in central Jersey if she would circulate to the mailing list &quot;An Open Letter to Obama&quot;. http://www.endtheoccupation.org/article.php?id=1771

The letter asks Obama to reconsider US policy in the Middle East. 

I didn&#039;t ask her to endorse the letter, just to send it, let people make their own decision.
She refused. Her answer. She &quot;wants peace&quot; but is &quot;torn by&quot; the situation in Gaza and so won&#039;t send the letter.
?
It seems to me this attitude of &#039;I&#039;ll just put my head in the sand even tho my conscience is hurting&#039; is typical of most liberal Jews.
It&#039;s a cop-out. It appears that the discomfort of being &quot;torn&quot; is more easily borne than the discomfort of confronting certain political realities and contradictions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding Obama,<br />
I asked a member of the Obama group here in central Jersey if she would circulate to the mailing list &#8220;An Open Letter to Obama&#8221;. <a href="http://www.endtheoccupation.org/article.php?id=1771" rel="nofollow">http://www.endtheoccupation.org/article.php?id=1771</a></p>
<p>The letter asks Obama to reconsider US policy in the Middle East. </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t ask her to endorse the letter, just to send it, let people make their own decision.<br />
She refused. Her answer. She &#8220;wants peace&#8221; but is &#8220;torn by&#8221; the situation in Gaza and so won&#8217;t send the letter.<br />
?<br />
It seems to me this attitude of &#8216;I&#8217;ll just put my head in the sand even tho my conscience is hurting&#8217; is typical of most liberal Jews.<br />
It&#8217;s a cop-out. It appears that the discomfort of being &#8220;torn&#8221; is more easily borne than the discomfort of confronting certain political realities and contradictions.</p>
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		<title>By: Noah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 11:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@B.BarNavi
It seems obvious that Hamas doesn&#039;t plan to release Shalit.  They want to torture everyone by keeping his fate ambiguous-like Ron Arad.  What about the Israelis who are being attacked in the South?  Is it folly to defend them?  Also, Israel has a right to blame Hamas.  Kidnapping a Jew is a violation of one of the Ten Commandments.  The reference to stealing in actuality means kidnapping.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@B.BarNavi<br />
It seems obvious that Hamas doesn&#8217;t plan to release Shalit.  They want to torture everyone by keeping his fate ambiguous-like Ron Arad.  What about the Israelis who are being attacked in the South?  Is it folly to defend them?  Also, Israel has a right to blame Hamas.  Kidnapping a Jew is a violation of one of the Ten Commandments.  The reference to stealing in actuality means kidnapping.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth (Liz) Berney, Esq.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth (Liz) Berney, Esq.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 07:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is simply incredible to read the unwarranted comments here condemning Israel for finally defending herself, after Israeli citizens suffered seven years of continual deadly rocket attacks from Gaza.  

Prior to the recent attacks, from 2001 – 2008, over 3,000 Qassam rockets and 2500 morters were fired from Gaza at Israeli targets, mainly against Sderot and surrounding areas, killing 23 Israelis, and injuring 433 Israelis (many of them extremely seriously) and causing destruction of homes, shopping centers, schools and other facilities.  Each week, the terrorist regime in Gaza rained more horror on Israel.  There was the Grad rocket attack from Gaza last May on the Ashkelon shopping mall, which injured 15 Israelis, many of them very seriously.  One of the seriously injured was a 3 year old girl.  There was the massive Qassam rocket attack from Gaza last February on Sderot, which amputated the leg of an 8-year-old Israeli boy and wounded his 19-year-old brother.  And the rocket attack from Gaza on a busy street in Sderot in November 2006 which killed a 57-year-old Israeli woman and severely wounded a 24-year-old man (the bodyguard to an Israeli cabinet minister), who lost both his legs.  And the mortar attack from Gaza this past November which injured eight Israelis, including a 21-year-old man who lost his right leg and barely had his other leg saved at the hospital.  The Israeli casualties go on and on.  Almost every child in Sderot suffers from post traumatic stress disorder due to the constant rocket attacks.  

It is surprising that the Israeli government waited so long to finally take action against the source of such terror against Israel’s innocent citizens. No other country in the world would have tolerated such horrible attacks on its citizenry for so many years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is simply incredible to read the unwarranted comments here condemning Israel for finally defending herself, after Israeli citizens suffered seven years of continual deadly rocket attacks from Gaza.  </p>
<p>Prior to the recent attacks, from 2001 – 2008, over 3,000 Qassam rockets and 2500 morters were fired from Gaza at Israeli targets, mainly against Sderot and surrounding areas, killing 23 Israelis, and injuring 433 Israelis (many of them extremely seriously) and causing destruction of homes, shopping centers, schools and other facilities.  Each week, the terrorist regime in Gaza rained more horror on Israel.  There was the Grad rocket attack from Gaza last May on the Ashkelon shopping mall, which injured 15 Israelis, many of them very seriously.  One of the seriously injured was a 3 year old girl.  There was the massive Qassam rocket attack from Gaza last February on Sderot, which amputated the leg of an 8-year-old Israeli boy and wounded his 19-year-old brother.  And the rocket attack from Gaza on a busy street in Sderot in November 2006 which killed a 57-year-old Israeli woman and severely wounded a 24-year-old man (the bodyguard to an Israeli cabinet minister), who lost both his legs.  And the mortar attack from Gaza this past November which injured eight Israelis, including a 21-year-old man who lost his right leg and barely had his other leg saved at the hospital.  The Israeli casualties go on and on.  Almost every child in Sderot suffers from post traumatic stress disorder due to the constant rocket attacks.  </p>
<p>It is surprising that the Israeli government waited so long to finally take action against the source of such terror against Israel’s innocent citizens. No other country in the world would have tolerated such horrible attacks on its citizenry for so many years.</p>
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		<title>By: B.BarNavi</title>
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		<dc:creator>B.BarNavi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 04:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And finally, the air force undertook the heroic task of destroying the main prison, which mainly housed Fatah prisoners–who are ostensibly Israel’s ally–and accused collaborators awaiting trial.&quot;

Will Israel finally realize the folly of its actions if Gilad Shalit ends up being killed by an Israeli bomb?

(They&#039;ll probably blame Hamas for using him as a human shield anyway. Responsibility avoided!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And finally, the air force undertook the heroic task of destroying the main prison, which mainly housed Fatah prisoners–who are ostensibly Israel’s ally–and accused collaborators awaiting trial.&#8221;</p>
<p>Will Israel finally realize the folly of its actions if Gilad Shalit ends up being killed by an Israeli bomb?</p>
<p>(They&#8217;ll probably blame Hamas for using him as a human shield anyway. Responsibility avoided!)</p>
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		<title>By: Evildoer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evildoer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 03:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;And to be clear to those who would deliberately misconstrue this statement–I do not see Israel this way in an absolute sense.&lt;/i&gt;

How many drunken binges an alcoholic make?

&lt;i&gt;If Israel has nothing against the citizens of Gaza then why has it killed at least 60 of them who are civilians? &lt;/i&gt;

As opposed to the traffic cops, the social workers, the government clerks and all the other &quot;militants&quot;?

&lt;i&gt;This is the tragedy of Israel’s assault.  It has cemented Hamas’ standing for years to come in the consciousness of not only Gazans and Palestinians in general, but the entire Arab world.&lt;/i&gt;

This is insensitive and smug. This is the &quot;tragedy&quot;? When hundreds of people are shredded? 

Besides, Hamas is the choice of the Palestinian people to lead them in their liberation struggle. as a citizen of a country who elected G.W. Bush twice, without being under occupation, you could be more respectful of other people&#039;s democratic choices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>And to be clear to those who would deliberately misconstrue this statement–I do not see Israel this way in an absolute sense.</i></p>
<p>How many drunken binges an alcoholic make?</p>
<p><i>If Israel has nothing against the citizens of Gaza then why has it killed at least 60 of them who are civilians? </i></p>
<p>As opposed to the traffic cops, the social workers, the government clerks and all the other &#8220;militants&#8221;?</p>
<p><i>This is the tragedy of Israel’s assault.  It has cemented Hamas’ standing for years to come in the consciousness of not only Gazans and Palestinians in general, but the entire Arab world.</i></p>
<p>This is insensitive and smug. This is the &#8220;tragedy&#8221;? When hundreds of people are shredded? </p>
<p>Besides, Hamas is the choice of the Palestinian people to lead them in their liberation struggle. as a citizen of a country who elected G.W. Bush twice, without being under occupation, you could be more respectful of other people&#8217;s democratic choices.</p>
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		<title>By: Zhu Bajie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zhu Bajie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 23:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve sometimes wondered what Israelis would do if they really could make the Palestinians disappear; deport them to North Dakota or Birobidzhan or some place.  Where would they get their olives and white cheese, the cucumbers and tomatoes?  It&#039;s been quite a while since I last visited, but it always seemed the people actually raising the food wore keffiyehs.

Zhu Bajie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve sometimes wondered what Israelis would do if they really could make the Palestinians disappear; deport them to North Dakota or Birobidzhan or some place.  Where would they get their olives and white cheese, the cucumbers and tomatoes?  It&#8217;s been quite a while since I last visited, but it always seemed the people actually raising the food wore keffiyehs.</p>
<p>Zhu Bajie</p>
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