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	<title>Comments on: Rick Warren to Speak to Muslim Convention After Calling for Ahmadinejad Assassination</title>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
		<link>http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2008/12/08/rick-warren-to-speak-to-muslim-convention-after-calling-for-ahmadinejad-assassination/comment-page-1/#comment-105018</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@randy: You&#039;re wrong on almost every count.  There is a difference bet. &quot;Islamic&quot; and &quot;Islamist&quot; which you&#039;ve missed.  There is no &quot;Islamic&quot; agenda to rid the world of anyone including any nation.  And Islam isn&#039;t a form of government except in the few places in the world which observe sharia law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@randy: You&#8217;re wrong on almost every count.  There is a difference bet. &#8220;Islamic&#8221; and &#8220;Islamist&#8221; which you&#8217;ve missed.  There is no &#8220;Islamic&#8221; agenda to rid the world of anyone including any nation.  And Islam isn&#8217;t a form of government except in the few places in the world which observe sharia law.</p>
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		<title>By: TheLazyGun</title>
		<link>http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2008/12/08/rick-warren-to-speak-to-muslim-convention-after-calling-for-ahmadinejad-assassination/comment-page-1/#comment-105006</link>
		<dc:creator>TheLazyGun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  Thread is actually quite amazing in a couple of ways, but denial on both sides is amazing.

Let&#039;s go back to 2005 ~ http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/oct/27/israel.iran

I&#039;m pretty sure wiped off that map means elimination of Israel as a country.  Would it have suited you better if Sean had asked Rick: &quot;So you think Ahmadinejad should disappear?&quot;  Then it wouldn&#039;t be an assassination, he&#039;d just be saying he shouldn&#039;t be there..Right?  At least that is Richard&#039;s mind set regarding Israel and the disappearing doesn&#039;t constitute violence.  That is a pure legalistic view instead of observing the intent of the comment.  

Now do some Israeli&#039;s feel aggressive towards Muslim nations?  Yes.  Do some Muslims feel aggressive towards Israel?  Yes.  Okay that topic is closed. Regardless of WHY.

I don&#039;t agree with Islam.  I try to be a Christian, and have my flaws as all of us do as HUMANS.  But I will not Attack a person, or condone attacks merely because a person or country is Muslim.

I believe Rick was being asked about a certain situation, and a particular person.  I believe he answered honestly what he felt instead of side stepping.  He wasn&#039;t asked about a Religion or group of people affiliated with one belief, but a single person who has a well known documented view.  A view I doubt everyone in Iran supports.

TheLazyGun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  Thread is actually quite amazing in a couple of ways, but denial on both sides is amazing.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s go back to 2005 ~ <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/oct/27/israel.iran" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/oct/27/israel.iran</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure wiped off that map means elimination of Israel as a country.  Would it have suited you better if Sean had asked Rick: &#8220;So you think Ahmadinejad should disappear?&#8221;  Then it wouldn&#8217;t be an assassination, he&#8217;d just be saying he shouldn&#8217;t be there..Right?  At least that is Richard&#8217;s mind set regarding Israel and the disappearing doesn&#8217;t constitute violence.  That is a pure legalistic view instead of observing the intent of the comment.  </p>
<p>Now do some Israeli&#8217;s feel aggressive towards Muslim nations?  Yes.  Do some Muslims feel aggressive towards Israel?  Yes.  Okay that topic is closed. Regardless of WHY.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t agree with Islam.  I try to be a Christian, and have my flaws as all of us do as HUMANS.  But I will not Attack a person, or condone attacks merely because a person or country is Muslim.</p>
<p>I believe Rick was being asked about a certain situation, and a particular person.  I believe he answered honestly what he felt instead of side stepping.  He wasn&#8217;t asked about a Religion or group of people affiliated with one belief, but a single person who has a well known documented view.  A view I doubt everyone in Iran supports.</p>
<p>TheLazyGun.</p>
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		<title>By: randy</title>
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		<dc:creator>randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wha&#039;ts wrong with Warren&#039;s comments?  Isn&#039;t the Islamic agenda to rid the world of Israel and the USA?  Correct me if I am wrong but wasn&#039;t 9/11 Islam motivated? And isn&#039;t Islam a form of government that intends to overtake the world?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wha&#8217;ts wrong with Warren&#8217;s comments?  Isn&#8217;t the Islamic agenda to rid the world of Israel and the USA?  Correct me if I am wrong but wasn&#8217;t 9/11 Islam motivated? And isn&#8217;t Islam a form of government that intends to overtake the world?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 01:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@POTL: &lt;blockquote&gt;I can assure you, that there are MANY Muslims that would endorse Warren’s comments.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
THis is a lie &amp; a rather stupid one at that.  I dare you to provide support for this idea fr. any serious reputable Muslim figure who would endorse the assassination of either Ahmadinejad or Muslim leaders in general.  Go on &amp; find some evidence.   And I&#039;m not talking about Nonie Darwish or Walid Shoebat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@POTL:<br />
<blockquote>I can assure you, that there are MANY Muslims that would endorse Warren’s comments.</p></blockquote>
<p>THis is a lie &#038; a rather stupid one at that.  I dare you to provide support for this idea fr. any serious reputable Muslim figure who would endorse the assassination of either Ahmadinejad or Muslim leaders in general.  Go on &#038; find some evidence.   And I&#8217;m not talking about Nonie Darwish or Walid Shoebat.</p>
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		<title>By: POTL</title>
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		<dc:creator>POTL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Richard Silverstein

Sorry for the late reply.  To answer your question, consider the final sentence of my previous post:

&quot;&quot;For a little perspective, it might be interesting to know what the VERY Muslim leaders of Saudi Arabia might think of this proposition.&quot;

More specifically, it is impossible to know what Muslims in general, or certainly all Muslims, would think of Warren&#039;s comments.  However, I can assure you, that there are MANY Muslims that would endorse Warren&#039;s comments.

Regardless of that even, Warren&#039;s comments still do not imply that he was being disrespectful of Muslims in general.  Unless you are implying that all Muslims would feel the same way about his comments, which I would disagree with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Richard Silverstein</p>
<p>Sorry for the late reply.  To answer your question, consider the final sentence of my previous post:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;For a little perspective, it might be interesting to know what the VERY Muslim leaders of Saudi Arabia might think of this proposition.&#8221;</p>
<p>More specifically, it is impossible to know what Muslims in general, or certainly all Muslims, would think of Warren&#8217;s comments.  However, I can assure you, that there are MANY Muslims that would endorse Warren&#8217;s comments.</p>
<p>Regardless of that even, Warren&#8217;s comments still do not imply that he was being disrespectful of Muslims in general.  Unless you are implying that all Muslims would feel the same way about his comments, which I would disagree with.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
		<link>http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2008/12/08/rick-warren-to-speak-to-muslim-convention-after-calling-for-ahmadinejad-assassination/comment-page-1/#comment-104794</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 06:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Yoni: Are you saying Iranians are Nazis &amp; Israelis Jews?  Sorry, I don&#039;t accept the premise or the analogy.

Iran &amp; Israel are involved in a fight to the death &amp; both see the other as a threat to their existence.  To claim Israel has no interest in Iran is not credible.  Of course, Iran is funding &amp; supplying Israel&#039;s enemies because it sees Israel as a major anti-Musim irritant in the Middle East.  Were the I-P conflict ever to be solved, this hostility would significantly decrease.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Yoni: Are you saying Iranians are Nazis &#038; Israelis Jews?  Sorry, I don&#8217;t accept the premise or the analogy.</p>
<p>Iran &#038; Israel are involved in a fight to the death &#038; both see the other as a threat to their existence.  To claim Israel has no interest in Iran is not credible.  Of course, Iran is funding &#038; supplying Israel&#8217;s enemies because it sees Israel as a major anti-Musim irritant in the Middle East.  Were the I-P conflict ever to be solved, this hostility would significantly decrease.</p>
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		<title>By: Yoni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yoni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 22:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It is simply ridiculous for you to claim that Israelis only make such statements because Iranians made them first. Belligerence bet. nations is never a one way street. It takes two to tango &amp; believe me Israeli knows all the dance steps.&quot;

So according to you if you lived in the thirties and forties you would say that Jews hate Nazis and Nazis hate Jews, there are extremists on both sides, and they should all calm down for talks and negotiations? Or does your logic not extend that far? What the heck does Israel have to do with Iran? Israel wants nothing to do with Iran, and doesn&#039;t want to destroy Iran anymore that it wants to destroy Swaziland or Paraguay. It is Iran that is gripped by Shiite extremism, and which sees Israel as an illegitimate state according to Sharia law, same as how Neturei Karta oppose Israel&#039;s existence. It is in reaction to Iran&#039;s theologically driven threats, and support for Hizbullah and Hamas, that Israelis fear Iran. No amount of your forced pseudo-intellectual relativism can change that fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It is simply ridiculous for you to claim that Israelis only make such statements because Iranians made them first. Belligerence bet. nations is never a one way street. It takes two to tango &amp; believe me Israeli knows all the dance steps.&#8221;</p>
<p>So according to you if you lived in the thirties and forties you would say that Jews hate Nazis and Nazis hate Jews, there are extremists on both sides, and they should all calm down for talks and negotiations? Or does your logic not extend that far? What the heck does Israel have to do with Iran? Israel wants nothing to do with Iran, and doesn&#8217;t want to destroy Iran anymore that it wants to destroy Swaziland or Paraguay. It is Iran that is gripped by Shiite extremism, and which sees Israel as an illegitimate state according to Sharia law, same as how Neturei Karta oppose Israel&#8217;s existence. It is in reaction to Iran&#8217;s theologically driven threats, and support for Hizbullah and Hamas, that Israelis fear Iran. No amount of your forced pseudo-intellectual relativism can change that fact.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 08:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Yoni: Once again, for every reference you can find to Iranians making threatening statements toward Israel I can find many more of Israelis threatening Iran.  So what does this prove?  It is simply ridiculous for you to claim that Israelis only make such statements because Iranians made them first.  Belligerence bet. nations is never a one way street.  It takes two to tango &amp; believe me Israeli knows all the dance steps.

You&#039;re simply temporizing in describing the Israeli children&#039;s messages as directed at Nasrallah.  Those missiles were going to be launched into Lebanese villages filled with Lebanese civilians many of whom were killed &amp; maimed by them.  To exploit children in such a situation by allowing them to be used in propaganda photographs is repulsive.  If Hezbollah did the same thing I would denounce it as well.

You are ever the apologist &amp; not a very convincing one at that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Yoni: Once again, for every reference you can find to Iranians making threatening statements toward Israel I can find many more of Israelis threatening Iran.  So what does this prove?  It is simply ridiculous for you to claim that Israelis only make such statements because Iranians made them first.  Belligerence bet. nations is never a one way street.  It takes two to tango &#038; believe me Israeli knows all the dance steps.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re simply temporizing in describing the Israeli children&#8217;s messages as directed at Nasrallah.  Those missiles were going to be launched into Lebanese villages filled with Lebanese civilians many of whom were killed &#038; maimed by them.  To exploit children in such a situation by allowing them to be used in propaganda photographs is repulsive.  If Hezbollah did the same thing I would denounce it as well.</p>
<p>You are ever the apologist &#038; not a very convincing one at that.</p>
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