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		<title>By: Alex Stein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Stein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is also disturbing: http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/nov/30mumterror-doctors-shocked-at-hostagess-torture.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is also disturbing: <a href="http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/nov/30mumterror-doctors-shocked-at-hostagess-torture.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/nov/30mumterror-doctors-shocked-at-hostagess-torture.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Moshe Posner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moshe Posner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 06:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These attacks have to be understood in the light of Israeli politics and in particular in an understanding of the Neocon roots of the Israeli government, which operates definitely NOT at the behest of mainstream Israelis.
The purpose is to terrorize the Chabad community in particular, but not for the reason you think:

Chabad has been the only major force attempting to re-establish Orthodox (or &quot;Observant&quot;) Judaism.

The largest number of attacks and imprisonment of Jews takes place in Israel.  The purpose of this is to create a viable war against Observant Jews.  This is, ironically, supported by the bogus &quot;Muslim&quot; attacks, not the least of which frauds was 9/11, which was clearly an inside job.

Our government (so-called) has always understood the necessity of contributing and/or inflaming both sides of any and all conflicts.  This has the intended consequences of 1) weakening both sides, 2) distracting attention from what is happening at the Vatican, and 3) avoiding the feared power if both sides of this conflict actually attempted to work together to destroy the real culprits.

Chabad has been &quot;fair game&quot; for extermination in Israel for over two generations that I know of.  The statistics don&#039;t lie--unfortunately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These attacks have to be understood in the light of Israeli politics and in particular in an understanding of the Neocon roots of the Israeli government, which operates definitely NOT at the behest of mainstream Israelis.<br />
The purpose is to terrorize the Chabad community in particular, but not for the reason you think:</p>
<p>Chabad has been the only major force attempting to re-establish Orthodox (or &#8220;Observant&#8221;) Judaism.</p>
<p>The largest number of attacks and imprisonment of Jews takes place in Israel.  The purpose of this is to create a viable war against Observant Jews.  This is, ironically, supported by the bogus &#8220;Muslim&#8221; attacks, not the least of which frauds was 9/11, which was clearly an inside job.</p>
<p>Our government (so-called) has always understood the necessity of contributing and/or inflaming both sides of any and all conflicts.  This has the intended consequences of 1) weakening both sides, 2) distracting attention from what is happening at the Vatican, and 3) avoiding the feared power if both sides of this conflict actually attempted to work together to destroy the real culprits.</p>
<p>Chabad has been &#8220;fair game&#8221; for extermination in Israel for over two generations that I know of.  The statistics don&#8217;t lie&#8211;unfortunately.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 05:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Richard Witty: I&#039;m not sure what you mean.  If you mean that the TARGETS of the attack were not meant to be Indian, then why attack the railroad station frequented by Indians more than tourists.  And the fact that only 13 out of over 150 dead were foreign points to the fact that as far as killing their targets were overwhelmingly Indian.

I doubt Indians would agree that their dead are a &quot;side story.&quot;  To you &amp; other westerners perhaps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Richard Witty: I&#8217;m not sure what you mean.  If you mean that the TARGETS of the attack were not meant to be Indian, then why attack the railroad station frequented by Indians more than tourists.  And the fact that only 13 out of over 150 dead were foreign points to the fact that as far as killing their targets were overwhelmingly Indian.</p>
<p>I doubt Indians would agree that their dead are a &#8220;side story.&#8221;  To you &#038; other westerners perhaps.</p>
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		<title>By: Shock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 15:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well if one say that they attacked the jews then what abt the three oficers which have been killed in the counter strike thay also have been targetted and killed one can not see that. Its all bloddy politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well if one say that they attacked the jews then what abt the three oficers which have been killed in the counter strike thay also have been targetted and killed one can not see that. Its all bloddy politics.</p>
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		<title>By: John Dickerson</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Dickerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 14:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BAD NEWS:

More hostages are dead at Mumbai Jewish centerReuters
  
JERUSALEM, Nov 28 (Reuters) - An Israeli rescue service run by Orthodox Jews said on Friday that staff it had sent to Mumbai to help at a siege of a Jewish religious centre believed that hostages in the Chabad Centre had died.

&quot;Apparently the hostages did not remain alive,&quot; the Zaka service said in a brief statement quoting its staff in Mumbai. It did identify the hostages nor say how many may have died. An Israeli rabbi and his wife had been believed to be held hostage.....
 
SOURCE -
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/All_Jewish_hostages_in_India_are_1128.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BAD NEWS:</p>
<p>More hostages are dead at Mumbai Jewish centerReuters</p>
<p>JERUSALEM, Nov 28 (Reuters) &#8211; An Israeli rescue service run by Orthodox Jews said on Friday that staff it had sent to Mumbai to help at a siege of a Jewish religious centre believed that hostages in the Chabad Centre had died.</p>
<p>&#8220;Apparently the hostages did not remain alive,&#8221; the Zaka service said in a brief statement quoting its staff in Mumbai. It did identify the hostages nor say how many may have died. An Israeli rabbi and his wife had been believed to be held hostage&#8230;..</p>
<p>SOURCE -<br />
<a href="http://rawstory.com/news/2008/All_Jewish_hostages_in_India_are_1128.html" rel="nofollow">http://rawstory.com/news/2008/All_Jewish_hostages_in_India_are_1128.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Richard Witty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Witty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 13:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree with the assessment that the object of the attack was Indians.

The target of the attack are places where westerners and foreigners feel comfortable, invited.

The message is two-fold. One is that foreigners are to be scared away, commerce and tourism.

The second is of &quot;internal struggle&quot;, alternating between the limited conflict over Kashmir to the larger conflict over control over the Indian subcontinent.

Some of a sixy years war (Kashmir), some of a thousand years war (Islamic dominance over the subcontinent), each carried out by self-appointing vanguard.

Of &quot;conscience&quot;, in the parallel of self-appointed responsibility.

That 95% of the victims were Indian, and likely a moderate but not insignificant minority Muslim, is a side story to message to the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with the assessment that the object of the attack was Indians.</p>
<p>The target of the attack are places where westerners and foreigners feel comfortable, invited.</p>
<p>The message is two-fold. One is that foreigners are to be scared away, commerce and tourism.</p>
<p>The second is of &#8220;internal struggle&#8221;, alternating between the limited conflict over Kashmir to the larger conflict over control over the Indian subcontinent.</p>
<p>Some of a sixy years war (Kashmir), some of a thousand years war (Islamic dominance over the subcontinent), each carried out by self-appointing vanguard.</p>
<p>Of &#8220;conscience&#8221;, in the parallel of self-appointed responsibility.</p>
<p>That 95% of the victims were Indian, and likely a moderate but not insignificant minority Muslim, is a side story to message to the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Gitanjali</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gitanjali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 09:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in Mumbai and I am witnessing these horrific events as they unfold on TV. 

- The GOC of Army operations has informed NDTV that they intercepted coversations of the militants talking in Punjabi. Punjabi is spoken in both India and Pakistan. The GOC also speculated that terrorists are aware that conversations are being intercepted and are attempting to give false information in hopes of misleading the army.http://ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080074373

- At the moment information about hostages are vague and undislosed because it could harm the safety of those trapped in the 3 main buildings. But the death toll through hospital estimates has risen to 125 with around 300 injured.

- This kind of attack is indeed a new kind of terrorism. It&#039;s not enough that they blow up innocent people anymore they have to hold the whole city under seige in oreder to instill in us a sense of constant fear and horror. 

- I agree with Mr. Silversteing. The this blog should not be titled attack on foreigners out of the 125 dead a 119 are Indians. As one commentator on NYT has said that we need to remember that the people of India are also victims and that, &quot;it shouldn’t be that foreign blood is more valuable than Indian blood&quot;

- It is important however to asses the motivations of these terrorists. They are clearly making a statement about India&#039;s relations with the US and with Israel. they want to sever these ties we have. And as Richard has rightly stated they constantly use the ISrael-Palestine conflict to fuel their war against the innocent.

I have more news too But I think I will let somone else have a chance to speak. This is indeed a horrific day for Mumbai. Such callous and reckless regard for life - No matter how yound, uneducated or impoverished you are, how can anyone in their twisted mind believe that this is right? My heart goes out to all those who have not survived this trajic event and to all those who have suffered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Mumbai and I am witnessing these horrific events as they unfold on TV. </p>
<p>- The GOC of Army operations has informed NDTV that they intercepted coversations of the militants talking in Punjabi. Punjabi is spoken in both India and Pakistan. The GOC also speculated that terrorists are aware that conversations are being intercepted and are attempting to give false information in hopes of misleading the army.<a href="http://ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080074373" rel="nofollow">http://ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080074373</a></p>
<p>- At the moment information about hostages are vague and undislosed because it could harm the safety of those trapped in the 3 main buildings. But the death toll through hospital estimates has risen to 125 with around 300 injured.</p>
<p>- This kind of attack is indeed a new kind of terrorism. It&#8217;s not enough that they blow up innocent people anymore they have to hold the whole city under seige in oreder to instill in us a sense of constant fear and horror. </p>
<p>- I agree with Mr. Silversteing. The this blog should not be titled attack on foreigners out of the 125 dead a 119 are Indians. As one commentator on NYT has said that we need to remember that the people of India are also victims and that, &#8220;it shouldn’t be that foreign blood is more valuable than Indian blood&#8221;</p>
<p>- It is important however to asses the motivations of these terrorists. They are clearly making a statement about India&#8217;s relations with the US and with Israel. they want to sever these ties we have. And as Richard has rightly stated they constantly use the ISrael-Palestine conflict to fuel their war against the innocent.</p>
<p>I have more news too But I think I will let somone else have a chance to speak. This is indeed a horrific day for Mumbai. Such callous and reckless regard for life &#8211; No matter how yound, uneducated or impoverished you are, how can anyone in their twisted mind believe that this is right? My heart goes out to all those who have not survived this trajic event and to all those who have suffered.</p>
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		<title>By: John Dickerson</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Dickerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 06:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FM: No Israelis in Mumbai Hospitals
Cheshvan 29, 5769, 27 November 08 09:54(IsraelNN.com) Foreign Ministry Spokesman Yossi Levi said, mid-morning Thursday, that according to the data received by Israel&#039;s control center for the Mombai terrorist attacks there are no Israelis among the wounded or dead in Mombai hospitals.

Levi added that reports coming had not yielded new specific information about the condition of Chabad Rabbi Gavriel Holtzberg and his wife, who are being held by terrorists in the Mumbai Chabad house. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FM: No Israelis in Mumbai Hospitals<br />
Cheshvan 29, 5769, 27 November 08 09:54(IsraelNN.com) Foreign Ministry Spokesman Yossi Levi said, mid-morning Thursday, that according to the data received by Israel&#8217;s control center for the Mombai terrorist attacks there are no Israelis among the wounded or dead in Mombai hospitals.</p>
<p>Levi added that reports coming had not yielded new specific information about the condition of Chabad Rabbi Gavriel Holtzberg and his wife, who are being held by terrorists in the Mumbai Chabad house. </p>
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