Comments on: Jewish Axis of Evil: Clarion Fund and GOP http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2008/11/26/jewish-axis-of-evil-clarion-fund-and-gop/ Essays on politics, culture and ideas about Israeli-Arab peace and world music Mon, 13 Feb 2012 01:53:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Who is behind Relentless, Obsession and The Third Jihad? « Espiax’s Blog http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2008/11/26/jewish-axis-of-evil-clarion-fund-and-gop/comment-page-1/#comment-107065 Who is behind Relentless, Obsession and The Third Jihad? « Espiax’s Blog Sun, 22 Feb 2009 01:52:33 +0000 http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/?p=5050#comment-107065 [...] director for Aish HaTorah), and Rebecca Kabat, another Aish HaTorah employee.” The Clarion Fund and the Republican Party 10/08.  Clarion and Aish Ha Torah share an IP address.  [...] [...] director for Aish HaTorah), and Rebecca Kabat, another Aish HaTorah employee.” The Clarion Fund and the Republican Party 10/08.  Clarion and Aish Ha Torah share an IP address.  [...]

]]> By: Richard Silverstein http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2008/11/26/jewish-axis-of-evil-clarion-fund-and-gop/comment-page-1/#comment-104337 Richard Silverstein Mon, 01 Dec 2008 08:46:16 +0000 http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/?p=5050#comment-104337 @Shoded Yam: Not at all. No need to apologize. It's a perfectly fair and important point to make. The phrase is a very complex & problematic one because of the ways in which it has been misappropriated. @Shoded Yam: Not at all. No need to apologize. It’s a perfectly fair and important point to make. The phrase is a very complex & problematic one because of the ways in which it has been misappropriated.

]]> By: Shoded Yam http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2008/11/26/jewish-axis-of-evil-clarion-fund-and-gop/comment-page-1/#comment-104333 Shoded Yam Mon, 01 Dec 2008 08:08:59 +0000 http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/?p=5050#comment-104333 Richard, I read you're "About" page. I'd like to apologize for a certain lack of erudition in regards to the my post questioning you're characterization of "pro-israel". Point taken. SY Richard,

I read you’re “About” page. I’d like to apologize for a certain lack of erudition in regards to the my post questioning you’re characterization of “pro-israel”. Point taken.

SY

]]> By: Shoded Yam http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2008/11/26/jewish-axis-of-evil-clarion-fund-and-gop/comment-page-1/#comment-104325 Shoded Yam Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:41:13 +0000 http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/?p=5050#comment-104325 In addition to the last comment, I would say that the symbiotic relationship that exists between Aish Ha Torah and the Israeli gov't is a paradigm repeated many times over, a fractile of a behaviour pattern representative of the byzantine inner workings of the Israeli political establishment as a whole. Though AIPAC, et al, are usually quite adept at blowing smoke up everybodies ass, for the past year they've been hard pressed in spinning the spectacle of this confluence of American Jewish influence peddling and Israeli greed as the corruption of Olmert has been presented play-by-play by the Israeli and international press. In addition to the last comment, I would say that the symbiotic relationship that exists between Aish Ha Torah and the Israeli gov’t is a paradigm repeated many times over, a fractile of a behaviour pattern representative of the byzantine inner workings of the Israeli political establishment as a whole. Though AIPAC, et al, are usually quite adept at blowing smoke up everybodies ass, for the past year they’ve been hard pressed in spinning the spectacle of this confluence of American Jewish influence peddling and Israeli greed as the corruption of Olmert has been presented play-by-play by the Israeli and international press.

]]> By: Joachim Martillo http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2008/11/26/jewish-axis-of-evil-clarion-fund-and-gop/comment-page-1/#comment-104320 Joachim Martillo Sun, 30 Nov 2008 12:36:12 +0000 http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/?p=5050#comment-104320 Other available information suggests a more sinister hypothesis: Aish has received considerable support from all Israeli governments since the 70s.Wall Street executives have paid Aish private tutoring fees that are in the corporate espionage range.Aish's national and international organization has the appearance of an intelligence gathering and exchange network particularly in the finance industry. (The system is rather like that of Chabad-Lubavitch only more targeted, and the personnel do not stand out quite as much as Chabad shiluchim.)The religious outreach of Aish looks like cover for more nefarious and possibly illegal activities. Calling Aish haTorah an arm of the right-wing settler movement does not really seem to capture the relationship, and suggests that the settler movement is more distinct from the Israeli government than it really is. Other available information suggests a more sinister hypothesis:
Aish has received considerable support from all Israeli governments since the 70s.Wall Street executives have paid Aish private tutoring fees that are in the corporate espionage range.Aish’s national and international organization has the appearance of an intelligence gathering and exchange network particularly in the finance industry. (The system is rather like that of Chabad-Lubavitch only more targeted, and the personnel do not stand out quite as much as Chabad shiluchim.)The religious outreach of Aish looks like cover for more nefarious and possibly illegal activities.

Calling Aish haTorah an arm of the right-wing settler movement does not really seem to capture the relationship, and suggests that the settler movement is more distinct from the Israeli government than it really is.

]]> By: Mariat http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2008/11/26/jewish-axis-of-evil-clarion-fund-and-gop/comment-page-1/#comment-104304 Mariat Sat, 29 Nov 2008 22:22:53 +0000 http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/?p=5050#comment-104304 salam aleikum, I send you a link to a good documental, http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7680p_censoredla-longe-nuit-the-long-nigh_news?subtitle=es Keep blogggggger Best! Mariat salam aleikum,

I send you a link to a good documental,

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7680p_censoredla-longe-nuit-the-long-nigh_news?subtitle=es

Keep blogggggger

Best!

Mariat

]]> By: Richard Silverstein http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2008/11/26/jewish-axis-of-evil-clarion-fund-and-gop/comment-page-1/#comment-104269 Richard Silverstein Fri, 28 Nov 2008 07:18:44 +0000 http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/?p=5050#comment-104269 @Shoded Yam: "Pro-Israel" is a tricky phrase. It's so critical that I've actually devoted an entire paragraph in my "About" page to how I mean the phrase when I use it. I almost always attach an adjective like "militant" or "rightist" to "pro-Israel" so readers will know that I am not talking about the avg. person who supports Israel (as I do). The Israel lobby as appropriated the phrase "Pro-Israel" which has unfortunately rid it of any useful meaning as far as I'm concerned. I don't even like saying I'm "pro-Israel" because of the association. Instead, I say I 'support' Israel, which essentially means the same thing. @Shoded Yam: “Pro-Israel” is a tricky phrase. It’s so critical that I’ve actually devoted an entire paragraph in my “About” page to how I mean the phrase when I use it. I almost always attach an adjective like “militant” or “rightist” to “pro-Israel” so readers will know that I am not talking about the avg. person who supports Israel (as I do). The Israel lobby as appropriated the phrase “Pro-Israel” which has unfortunately rid it of any useful meaning as far as I’m concerned. I don’t even like saying I’m “pro-Israel” because of the association. Instead, I say I ‘support’ Israel, which essentially means the same thing.

]]> By: John Dickerson http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2008/11/26/jewish-axis-of-evil-clarion-fund-and-gop/comment-page-1/#comment-104264 John Dickerson Fri, 28 Nov 2008 05:37:06 +0000 http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/?p=5050#comment-104264 FROM MR. SILVERSTEIN'S POST: "Among the dumb concepts that George Bush created (or his speechwriters) was an “Axis of Evil” consisting of three countries. An axis only has two ends, not three. So rhetorically what Bush said seems a mangling of the language" ******************************************** Yes, I have thought a lot about that. I think the idea was to allude to (guilt by association) the "Axis powers" of WWII (the German Nazis and the Italian fascists). The original 1930's "axis" was Rome to Berlin. When Japan later joined with Germany and Italy for WWII, they were still referred to as "the Axis powers" even though the axis concept no longer fit (technically). "Axes powers" (the plural of axis) would have made more sense. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axis_Powers PS. - David Frum is credited with creating the "Axis of Evil" (which should have been "Axes of Evil"). All George W. Bush did was "catapult the propaganda"!!!! FROM MR. SILVERSTEIN’S POST:
“Among the dumb concepts that George Bush created (or his speechwriters) was an “Axis of Evil” consisting of three countries. An axis only has two ends, not three. So rhetorically what Bush said seems a mangling of the language”
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Yes, I have thought a lot about that. I think the idea was to allude to (guilt by association) the “Axis powers” of WWII (the German Nazis and the Italian fascists).
The original 1930′s “axis” was Rome to Berlin. When Japan later joined with Germany and Italy for WWII, they were still referred to as “the Axis powers” even though the axis concept no longer fit (technically). “Axes powers” (the plural of axis) would have made more sense.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axis_Powers

PS. – David Frum is credited with creating the “Axis of Evil” (which should have been “Axes of Evil”). All George W. Bush did was “catapult the propaganda”!!!!

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