So I’m a bit pessimistic about Obama and Clinton regarding the I/P conflict, but hope that they’ve said the things they’ve said out of (cynical) political calculation and know perfectly well that Israel will need to be pushed to accept a fair deal for Palestinians.

Yossi Alpher- a veteran Oslo person wrote this on 4 October in the Jerusalem Post. He stated that contrary to the conventional wisdom that “everyone knows the outlines of the agreement-withdrawal to the pre-67 lines and Israel’s “symbolic” acceptance of the Palestinian RIght of Return”, there aren’t ANY agreements on any of the major issues).

You already wrote this in a previous comment several wks. ago. The next time you repeat yrself in a similar way I will delete yr comment.

Yossi Alpher is not the arbiter of Israeli liberalism. I don’t know or care what he says about the conflict. The consensus is known by all. There is no consensus about the Right of Return, but there IS consensus about all other issues such as 1967 borders & sharing Jerusalem.

You were the one who claimed McCain was going to beat Obama. Now you claim there’s no chance for peace. You were wrong once. You will be wrong again.

the holiest places of the Jewish people and territories valuable to the security of the state

What utter narischkeit. Hebron is valuable to the security of the state? What are you smokin’? And btw, no one is insisting that Jews give up their ties to these alleged holy sites. Jews may remain under Palestinian sovereignty if they wish. But would they have the strength of their convictions to remain if the sites mean so much to them?

Israelis, even “progressives” are nervous about making the concessions demanded

Ah yes, “progressive” Israelis like Benny Morris, Michael Oren & Jeffrey Goldberg, no doubt are quite nervous. But what about REAL progressive Israelis? Not so nervous it appears. For BK, anyone to the left of Kahane is progressive.

November 20, 2008 — Hanssen’s confessions clued Opus Dei and Mossad in on his espionage for Moscow.

from waynemadsenreport.com

On November 10, 2008, WMR reported on the compromise to Israel’s Mossad of the espionage being carried out on behalf of Moscow by former FBI counter-intelligence chief Robert Hanssen and how that information came to the attention of Bill Clinton’s policy adviser Rahm Emanuel.

We reported: “WMR has learned that Hanssen also spied for Mossad at the same time he was spying for the Russians and that this information was known to Emanuel. WMR has learned that the FBI established that there was a relationship between Hanssen, a Chicago native whose father was a Chicago police officer, and Emanuel, also a native of Chicago. The Mossad decided to ‘trade out’ Hanssen to the FBI’s counter-intelligence division in order to keep the bureau pre-occupied trying to ferret out a mole within their own ranks and take the heat off Emanuel and the Clinton White House over the knowledge that Israeli intelligence had penetrated White House communications and this fact was related by Clinton to White House intern Monica Lewinsky during a phone conversation. Hanssen was convicted of espionage after he was pressured into not going ahead with a jury trial. Hanssen was warned that his wife would be denied his FBI pension if he insisted on a full jury trial. He is serving a life sentence in solitary confinement at the Federal Supermax Prison in Colorado.” ……….

ENTIRE ARTICLE –
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/johnlewisdickerson/gGxtdB

ORIGINAL SOURCE – http://www.waynemadsenreport.com

Verizon fires workers over Obama cell phone records

(CNN) — Verizon Wireless has fired employees connected to a breach of records from a cell phone used by President-elect Barack Obama this year, a Verizon source said Friday……

Verizon reported the breach Thursday, and Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs said the transition team had been notified Wednesday. Gibbs said the president-elect no longer uses that phone, which has been inactive for months…..

The source also said the employees in question could not have read text messages, if Obama sent or received them, and would not have been able to access the content of any voice mail messages, although they would have been able to see whether any had been left…..

Ari Schwartz of the Center for Democracy and Technology said the employees probably had access to the dates and times of calls, the length of calls and the telephone numbers of those Obama spoke with…..[NOTE - EXACTLY THE INFO HANDLED BY ISREAL'S AMDOCS- JD]

Verizon Wireless, meanwhile, has launched a separate internal investigation to determine whether Obama’s information was shared only among employees or whether “the information of our customer had in any way been compromised outside our company, and this investigation continues,” McAdam said in an internal e-mail obtained by CNN.

The company has alerted “the appropriate federal law enforcement authorities,” McAdam said…….

ENTIRE ARTICLE – http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/21/obama.cell.phone/index.html

“World”

Got a package full of Wishes
A Time machine, a Magic Wand
A Globe made out of Gold

No Instructions or Commandments
Laws of Gravity or
Indecisions to uphold

Printed on the box I see
A.C.M.E.’s Build-a-World-to-be
Take a chance – Grab a piece
Help me to believe it

What kind of world do you want?
Think Anything
Let’s start at the start
Build a masterpiece
Be careful what you wish for
History starts now…

Should there be people or peoples
Money, Funny pedestals for Fools who never pay
Raise your Army – Choose your Steeple
Don’t be shy, the satellites can look the other way

Lose the Earthquakes – Keep the Faults
Fill the oceans without the salt
Let every Man own his own Hand

What kind of world do you want
Think Anything
Let’s start at the start
Build a masterpiece
Be careful what you wish for
History starts now…

Sunlight’s on the Bridge
Sunlight’s on the Way
Tomorrow’s Calling

There’s more to this than Love

What Kind of world do you want
What Kind of world do you want

What Kind of world do you want
Think Anything
Let’s start at the start
Build a masterpiece

History Starts Now

Be careful what you wish for
Start Now

October 24, 2006 — A senior French DGSE — Direction générale de la sécurité extérieure — intelligence officer has told WMR [Wayne Madsen Report]that Lebanon’s ex-Prime Minister Rafik Hariri was killed in a car bombing arranged by Israel’s Mossad. The revelation from French intelligence is significant as the French government of Jacques Chirac joined the Bush administration and the neo-con policy establishments in Washington and Israel in blaming Syria for the attack. According to the DGSE officer, Israel and its American backers wanted to blame Syria for the assassination of the popular Lebanese leader in order to blame Syria for the attack thus forcing the popular Lebanese revolt that saw the withdrawal of Syrian forces. That left Lebanon defenseless for the “Clean Break” attack launched by Israel, with US support, against Hezbollah and Lebanon’s infrastructure…..

ENTIRE ARTICLE – http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/johnlewisdickerson/gGxtlf

ORIGINAL SOURCE –
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com