Comments on: Settlers: Obama as Brown Shirt

By: Richard Silverstein

Richard Silverstein — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 00:20:40 +0000

@Yoni: Oh, you mean you’re expecting us to trust the claims of Abe Rosenthal, a NYT editor who admitted he saw himself as a mouthpiece for Israeli hasbara as part of his editorial job, quoting arch right-winger Natan Sharansky on this subject???

Avishai Raviv didn’t kill Rabin. Yigal Amir did. Or are you claiming Amir was a government agent as well?

By: Yoni

Yoni — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 08:04:59 +0000

Actually, if you did a little research you would see that the those Israeli rightist were in fact leftist “agent provocateurs” meant to slander and discredit the right such as Avishai Raviv. This is pretty well known. Here is a random NYTimes article from 1995 found through google:

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0CE0D61339F937A15752C1A963958260

Just google “agents provocateur rabin nazi” or something similar to find sources.

By: Richard Silverstein

Richard Silverstein — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 07:03:53 +0000

@Yoni: Why don’t you also point out that Israeli rightists paraded with placards picturing Rabin in Nazi regalia before they offed him, just as the settler website pictured Obama in a Brown Shirt uniform. But that type of Jewish hate doesn’t bother you does it? Because you’re guilty of it yrself when you declared here that any Israeli PM who shares Jerusalem should be hung? Aren’t you?

By: Yoni

Yoni — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 02:21:31 +0000

In fact one of the main government controlled newspapers in Egypt portrayed Shimon Peres as Hitler, at the height of the Oslo Accords no less. But if I were to point that out, or Obsession or Pipes, as an example of the hatred that exists in the Arab world, that makes us Islamophobes and racists I presume (and remember this is a freakin government controlled newspaper not just some guy’s blog)

By: Richard Silverstein

Richard Silverstein — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 05:14:11 +0000

@Yoni: Once again, I have not said that Kuman represents all settlers. In fact, I even called the site representative of the “settler right.”

Clarion Fund, Pipes, et al make the mistake of finding a few disturbing incidents & extrapolating fr. these incidents as if they represent the whole. Besides, the films you mention & Pipes are full of outright lies & distortions so severe as to do damage to truth & fact. I, on the other hand, have not exagerrated the views of those who blog at Kumah. I merely quote them.

By: Yoni

Yoni — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 04:28:43 +0000

“I’m merely displaying their own incitement for all the world to see.”

Isn’t this exactly what Obsession and Third Jihad do? Isn’t this exactly what scholars like Daniel Pipes write about? And when it comes to Islamism there is much more material to work with, spanning the globe and millions of people. Yet you call all these people rabid Muslim haters and racists.

By: Richard Silverstein

Richard Silverstein — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 02:44:24 +0000

@Yoni: Oh puh-leeze. I’m merely displaying their own incitement for all the world to see. I didn’t put up the graphic. If you or they are afraid that as a result of this graphic people will hate settlers then they shouldn’t have posted it. They did. So they pay the price.

I never said Kumah represents all 400,000 settlers. But it IS a multi author blog by Israeli-Americans who include a prominent media journalist. This is a political hate statement which does represent the sentiments of a significant number of settlers, though by no means all.

By: Richard Silverstein

Richard Silverstein — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 02:36:43 +0000

@Devil’s Advocate: Of course I know what kumah means. Don’t be a dolt. That’s not what I was referring to. I was referring to “Uberblog.” Very strange to use a vaguely German coinage in such a context I thought.