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	<title>Comments on: Obsession&#8217;s Secret Producer Revealed, Republican Jewish Coalition Ties to Clarion Uncovered</title>
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		<title>By: Bloggers expose Sun&#8217;s anti-Muslim propaganda, Tom Griffin &#8211; Politics Unlimited &#124; UK politics news</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bloggers expose Sun&#8217;s anti-Muslim propaganda, Tom Griffin &#8211; Politics Unlimited &#124; UK politics news</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] in key swing states during the US election. While the film&#039;s backers claim to be non-partisan, Richard Silverstein has uncovered evidence of their links to the Republican Jewish [...]</description>
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		<title>By: كلمات دون ترخيص &#187; Blog Archive &#187; أميركان يصوّتون: نرفض الاحتقار ضد العرب والمسلمين ونقف تضامنا معهم</title>
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		<dc:creator>كلمات دون ترخيص &#187; Blog Archive &#187; أميركان يصوّتون: نرفض الاحتقار ضد العرب والمسلمين ونقف تضامنا معهم</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 22:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 06:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Barry Weiss: &lt;blockquote&gt;ISLAM, the very word means SUBMISSION&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Lord preserve us, it&#039;s another ignorant Islamophobe.  Submission to God, not man you moron.  Where did you learn about Islam?  From the Benny Morris-Dan Pipes-David Horowitz School of Pseudo-Islamic Studies?

Judaism also preaches a similar dogma.  Or haven&#039;t you heard of the concept of accepting the &quot;yoke of heaven&quot; or &quot;yoke of the Torah?&quot;  If you haven&#039;t, I&#039;ll give you Hillel&#039;s advice: &quot;Go and study.&quot;

No protest by Muslims against terror?  More lunacy.  Do a Google search on precisely those search terms &amp; you&#039;ll find thousands of separate web pages devoted to precisely the subject you claim doesn&#039;t exist.
&lt;blockquote&gt;I see only riots and exhortations to violence &lt;/blockquote&gt;
You&#039;re a precise mirror image of the Arab haters of Judaism who claim it is a religion of hate.  Neither one of you knows a thing about the other&#039;s religion except what you ea. learn in yr propaganda tracts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Barry Weiss:<br />
<blockquote>ISLAM, the very word means SUBMISSION</p></blockquote>
<p>Lord preserve us, it&#8217;s another ignorant Islamophobe.  Submission to God, not man you moron.  Where did you learn about Islam?  From the Benny Morris-Dan Pipes-David Horowitz School of Pseudo-Islamic Studies?</p>
<p>Judaism also preaches a similar dogma.  Or haven&#8217;t you heard of the concept of accepting the &#8220;yoke of heaven&#8221; or &#8220;yoke of the Torah?&#8221;  If you haven&#8217;t, I&#8217;ll give you Hillel&#8217;s advice: &#8220;Go and study.&#8221;</p>
<p>No protest by Muslims against terror?  More lunacy.  Do a Google search on precisely those search terms &#038; you&#8217;ll find thousands of separate web pages devoted to precisely the subject you claim doesn&#8217;t exist.</p>
<blockquote><p>I see only riots and exhortations to violence </p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;re a precise mirror image of the Arab haters of Judaism who claim it is a religion of hate.  Neither one of you knows a thing about the other&#8217;s religion except what you ea. learn in yr propaganda tracts.</p>
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		<title>By: Irfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Irfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 03:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. The only way to respond to terrorism is to protest. Forget about tipping off law enforcement officials about possible attacks (as happened in UK, Canada, Spain, Australia etc). Forget burying your own terror victims (more Muslims die from such such attacks than non-Muslims). Forget trying to rebuild broken and shattered families. Just get on the streets and protest so that Barry and stop seeing the speck in your eye whilst ignoring the log in his own.

Barry, I&#039;m sure all Israeli women are jumping for joy at the Israeli Beth Din&#039;s treatment of their family law disputes. And which one of the 613 commandments taught &quot;religious&quot; settlers to bash the living daylight out of indigenous West Bank women and children?

Still, I shouldn&#039;t do what you do, Barry. I won&#039;t ask you whether you marched in the streets when the IDF bombed Southern Lebanon. Because I know that both Jewish and Islamic sacred laws have plenty of wonderful teachings and aren&#039;t limited to amputating limbs without anaesthetic. And because aggression, whether carried out by Jews or Muslims, is less interested in implementing religion and more in misusing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. The only way to respond to terrorism is to protest. Forget about tipping off law enforcement officials about possible attacks (as happened in UK, Canada, Spain, Australia etc). Forget burying your own terror victims (more Muslims die from such such attacks than non-Muslims). Forget trying to rebuild broken and shattered families. Just get on the streets and protest so that Barry and stop seeing the speck in your eye whilst ignoring the log in his own.</p>
<p>Barry, I&#8217;m sure all Israeli women are jumping for joy at the Israeli Beth Din&#8217;s treatment of their family law disputes. And which one of the 613 commandments taught &#8220;religious&#8221; settlers to bash the living daylight out of indigenous West Bank women and children?</p>
<p>Still, I shouldn&#8217;t do what you do, Barry. I won&#8217;t ask you whether you marched in the streets when the IDF bombed Southern Lebanon. Because I know that both Jewish and Islamic sacred laws have plenty of wonderful teachings and aren&#8217;t limited to amputating limbs without anaesthetic. And because aggression, whether carried out by Jews or Muslims, is less interested in implementing religion and more in misusing it.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Weiss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry Weiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 01:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the world to have peace, religion must PROMOTE SOCIETAL WELL BEING, which means peace, harmony, tolerance, human rights, womens rights &amp; civil rights.  ISLAM, the very word means SUBMISSION, does NONE of these essentials for peace.  The 613 commandments of the Torah do promote societal well being.   The Koran does not!  Show me protests by moderate Muslims against terror.  I see only riots and exhortations to violence and murder.  Most who would be moderate are intimidated or killed.  Would you say that a Jew declaiming Hitler&#039;s Final Solution was &quot;hate filled&quot;?  I cited the lies believed by a Muslim mosque-goer in Queens, NY to demonstrate the Third Jihad we must combat if we are to remain free.  When will you wake up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the world to have peace, religion must PROMOTE SOCIETAL WELL BEING, which means peace, harmony, tolerance, human rights, womens rights &amp; civil rights.  ISLAM, the very word means SUBMISSION, does NONE of these essentials for peace.  The 613 commandments of the Torah do promote societal well being.   The Koran does not!  Show me protests by moderate Muslims against terror.  I see only riots and exhortations to violence and murder.  Most who would be moderate are intimidated or killed.  Would you say that a Jew declaiming Hitler&#8217;s Final Solution was &#8220;hate filled&#8221;?  I cited the lies believed by a Muslim mosque-goer in Queens, NY to demonstrate the Third Jihad we must combat if we are to remain free.  When will you wake up?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 06:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Irfan: Ah yes, I think that there is.  Aish HaTorah clearly supports a right-wing pro-settler agenda.  The question is how extremist are Clarion-Aish&#039;s views?  Do they go as far as wishing the secular state would be overthrown and replaced with a halachic-theocratic state as the most extreme settlers seek to do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Irfan: Ah yes, I think that there is.  Aish HaTorah clearly supports a right-wing pro-settler agenda.  The question is how extremist are Clarion-Aish&#8217;s views?  Do they go as far as wishing the secular state would be overthrown and replaced with a halachic-theocratic state as the most extreme settlers seek to do?</p>
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		<title>By: Irfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Irfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 05:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard, just to clarify. 

I am not talking about the modern state of Israel. I&#039;m not suggesting the modern Jewish state was established to be a theocratic state anymore than Pakistan was established to be a Muslim theocratic state.

http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/stories/s2195087.htm 

I am talking about certain people, certain theocratic political factions, inside Israel who wish to transform it into a theocratic state. And I am inquiring if there is any link between the makers of Obsession and such theocratic parties.

Hope that clarifies my line of inquiry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard, just to clarify. </p>
<p>I am not talking about the modern state of Israel. I&#8217;m not suggesting the modern Jewish state was established to be a theocratic state anymore than Pakistan was established to be a Muslim theocratic state.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/stories/s2195087.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/stories/s2195087.htm</a> </p>
<p>I am talking about certain people, certain theocratic political factions, inside Israel who wish to transform it into a theocratic state. And I am inquiring if there is any link between the makers of Obsession and such theocratic parties.</p>
<p>Hope that clarifies my line of inquiry.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Irfan: &lt;blockquote&gt;Are they not the same as people wishing to establish a Jewish state where Jewish sacred law is extreme?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You&#039;re close to making the same mistake the Islamophobes make vis a vis Islam.  The current Jewish state does not reflect &quot;Jewish sacred law&quot; in its own laws.  It is a secular state, though it does accord Orthodox Judaism control of certain civil matters like marriage &amp; divorce.  But this is much diff. than what Islamists propose who support Shaaria.

I should make clear that I do NOT support an Israel in which the Orthodox control any aspect of civil life.  But I think it&#039;s important to understand the distinction I make above.

Now, if you want to talk about settler extremists they DO propose a halachic Jewish state in which sacred law rules EVERY aspect of Israeli life.  Not to mention that they would rid Israel of non-Jews.  These people are truly extreme, but they have not yet achieved their goals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Irfan:<br />
<blockquote>Are they not the same as people wishing to establish a Jewish state where Jewish sacred law is extreme?</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;re close to making the same mistake the Islamophobes make vis a vis Islam.  The current Jewish state does not reflect &#8220;Jewish sacred law&#8221; in its own laws.  It is a secular state, though it does accord Orthodox Judaism control of certain civil matters like marriage &#038; divorce.  But this is much diff. than what Islamists propose who support Shaaria.</p>
<p>I should make clear that I do NOT support an Israel in which the Orthodox control any aspect of civil life.  But I think it&#8217;s important to understand the distinction I make above.</p>
<p>Now, if you want to talk about settler extremists they DO propose a halachic Jewish state in which sacred law rules EVERY aspect of Israeli life.  Not to mention that they would rid Israel of non-Jews.  These people are truly extreme, but they have not yet achieved their goals.</p>
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