Comments on: Tikun Olam Files IRS Complaint Against Clarion Fund

By: cashley73

cashley73 — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 02:00:29 +0000

Thank you for your comments I understand especially when commentators say that the Iran’s PM is the greatest leader in the world.

I will do a condensed commentary based on the rebuttals for our Wed night church discussion group and I will include both rebuttals. If it was not for the Wall Street meltdown and the debates, more attention would be on the DVD. That is the only silver lining to come out of the bailout.

By: Richard Silverstein

Richard Silverstein — Sun, 28 Sep 2008 23:59:26 +0000

@cashley73: I’m sorry too. I knew someone had mentioned the Obsession With Hate site twice but I didn’t realize that one of the folks who mentioned it was you. My apologies.

I’m gratified that you had the guts & class to admit you’d erred in yr original judgment of the film. So let me be the first to say how gracious it is of you to say that you’ve changed yr mind.

I get a lot of commenters here who are pugnacious & it tend to bring that out in my in reply. So let me apologize if my comments toward you were too much in that vein.

By: cashley73

cashley73 — Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:42:58 +0000

@Silverstien

Actually, I did acknowledge it and I also added the below comment in my above comments to you:

“Last night I did find a somewhat decent rebuttal at
http://www.obsessionwithhate.com. Is is not the main page but you have to click on “read full rebuttal.”

Gentlemen, looks like Robin has gotten you off the hook.”

I have had time to cool down from your comments and I have had time to read both rebuttals. I agree with the rebuttals and I agree with Mr. Silverman that Obsession’s content is hate literature and propaganda and should be treated as such.

Mr. Silverman is justified in tauting me with my own original statements and most likey will still think my agreement is some form of debate ploy. He has every reason to be suspicious given the other attacks and comments people have made and he doesn’t know me from the other crazies.

I apolozie in my initial support of the DVD and comments. In view of everything, it was reprehensible, and for that I am sorry.

By: Sofian Abdelaziz Zakkout

Sofian Abdelaziz Zakkout — Sun, 28 Sep 2008 16:40:14 +0000

Free of speech is a great right that any free society can have. But what this DVD has to do with free of speech when it brought
hate and violence against a community living in that society!
We have already in South Florida a home of a Muslim have been stoned! I assure you that this Muslim leader have promoted projects between Muslims and non-Muslims. The newspapers who promoted the Obsession DVD are responsible of hate incidents!
Is it healthy in the name of free of speech to start to create DVDs against Jews, against Christians, against Black, against Muslims by mentioning a part of these groups are radicals! That means be a ware of the whole population because we did not identify the part and we did not identified the meaning of radicalism! Yes we all support the free of speech but we should stand against any
plan or a plot made to create hate between communities living in the same society. We should instead bring projects to build a healthier Society to develop a stronger nation against all harms may comes to our country the US.
We all Americans should unite against hate and especially against hate promoters like Daniel Pipes, Joe Kaufman, Steven Emerson, Brigitte Gabriel and others. America can be a stronger nation without.
I stand with a great respect for all those who work against hate among our communities.
Br. Sofian Abdelaziz Zakkout
American Muslim Association of North America
http://www.al-amana.org

By: John Dickerson

John Dickerson — Sat, 27 Sep 2008 23:28:34 +0000

I recall Jacobo Timerman opining that WWIII will probably be ignited by the use of an inappropriate analogy. I believe the use of the Nazi film segments in “Obsession” constitutes an inappropriate analogy.

By: Richard Silverstein

Richard Silverstein — Sat, 27 Sep 2008 04:32:05 +0000

@cashley73: No, if you truly had an open mind you wouldn’t have written that Obsession “has tremendous merit.” You tipped yr hand right there. If you really wanted to come across as a truly open-minded person you don’t praise the film in the very first sentence of the very first comment you publish here.

I have zero intention of carrying this thread any further.

That’s a relief.

You’ll notice several commenters have provided the link to the site which rebuts Obsession. Yet Cashley hasn’t even acknowledged this. So just how open is he? Has he visited the site? Or does he have a not so hidden agenda?

By: pablo

pablo — Sat, 27 Sep 2008 03:38:44 +0000

http://www.obsessionwithhate.com/

is a place one can find a rebuttal of this terrible DVD

By: cashley73

cashley73 — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 20:20:00 +0000

Robin you are correct, Mr. Silverstein you are not. It is a shame and you are as hurtful and as hateful as those you propose to hate. I do have an open mind but you are to caught up in yourself to see it. Siverstein knows best for anyone who dares set foot in his holy blog.

I have zero intention of carrying this thread any further.

Mr. Silverstein has most definately ended this dialog. Since I am new here I think I can unsubcribe to this thread via subscriptions.

Good Day.