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		<title>By: Voices without Votes &#187; Global: Early reviews on John McCain&#8217;s acceptance speech</title>
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		<dc:creator>Voices without Votes &#187; Global: Early reviews on John McCain&#8217;s acceptance speech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] blogger Richard Silverstein writing in Tikun Olam quotes the closing of McCain’s speech: “Stand up, stand up, stand up and fight,” he said at [...]</description>
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		<title>By: fiddler</title>
		<link>http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2008/09/05/mccain-we-make-history/comment-page-1/#comment-102440</link>
		<dc:creator>fiddler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 09:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gregory:
&lt;blockquote&gt;When you set aside the might of the U.S. military, as the opposition knew Mr. Carter did and knows Mr. Obama will do, then you definitely are playing with a weak hand.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s an indiction of US foreign politics often implied but rarely heard explicitly from right wingers. It&#039;s even half true. With their bellingerency the US have squandered much of the soft power they once had, they have diplomatically neutered themselves to an extent.

Obama&#039;s proposition to extend the war in Afghanistan, possibly even more into Pakistan is not exactly promising in that regard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gregory:</p>
<blockquote><p>When you set aside the might of the U.S. military, as the opposition knew Mr. Carter did and knows Mr. Obama will do, then you definitely are playing with a weak hand.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s an indiction of US foreign politics often implied but rarely heard explicitly from right wingers. It&#8217;s even half true. With their bellingerency the US have squandered much of the soft power they once had, they have diplomatically neutered themselves to an extent.</p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s proposition to extend the war in Afghanistan, possibly even more into Pakistan is not exactly promising in that regard.</p>
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		<title>By: Zhubaji</title>
		<link>http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2008/09/05/mccain-we-make-history/comment-page-1/#comment-102437</link>
		<dc:creator>Zhubaji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 06:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;weak and feckless administration of Jimmy Carter&quot;

Carter wanted to conserve energy, invest in new energy technologies.  If we had done so, the US economy and the world in general would be in far better shape.

McCain and supporters think their playing Risk.  But the people killed are real human being.

Zhu Bajie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;weak and feckless administration of Jimmy Carter&#8221;</p>
<p>Carter wanted to conserve energy, invest in new energy technologies.  If we had done so, the US economy and the world in general would be in far better shape.</p>
<p>McCain and supporters think their playing Risk.  But the people killed are real human being.</p>
<p>Zhu Bajie</p>
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		<title>By: Zhubaji</title>
		<link>http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2008/09/05/mccain-we-make-history/comment-page-1/#comment-102436</link>
		<dc:creator>Zhubaji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 06:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We took up the cause of freedom and, dare I say, fought to protect our land and our people.&quot;

Well, I fought in Viet Nam, and it was *NOT* about freedom, but vanity and the lust to dominate.

Zhu Bajie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We took up the cause of freedom and, dare I say, fought to protect our land and our people.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, I fought in Viet Nam, and it was *NOT* about freedom, but vanity and the lust to dominate.</p>
<p>Zhu Bajie</p>
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		<title>By: Zhubaji</title>
		<link>http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2008/09/05/mccain-we-make-history/comment-page-1/#comment-102435</link>
		<dc:creator>Zhubaji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 05:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If McCain is like most Americans, he thinks history is some political fiction that he wants to believe because it&#039;s flattering.

Speaking as a real historian/archaeologist, history is what people really do, and it&#039;s mostly &quot;the follies and vices of mankind&quot;, to quote another historian, Gibbon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If McCain is like most Americans, he thinks history is some political fiction that he wants to believe because it&#8217;s flattering.</p>
<p>Speaking as a real historian/archaeologist, history is what people really do, and it&#8217;s mostly &#8220;the follies and vices of mankind&#8221;, to quote another historian, Gibbon.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
		<link>http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2008/09/05/mccain-we-make-history/comment-page-1/#comment-102433</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 04:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@bar_kochba132: Actually many progressives had great respect for the 2000 McCain who really was a &quot;straight talker&quot; &amp; willing to stand up to the evangelicals &amp; Bush.  But few respect the &quot;new &amp; improved&quot; version bought &amp; paid for by lobbyists &amp; willing to tack in the wind to the prevailing political currents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@bar_kochba132: Actually many progressives had great respect for the 2000 McCain who really was a &#8220;straight talker&#8221; &#038; willing to stand up to the evangelicals &#038; Bush.  But few respect the &#8220;new &#038; improved&#8221; version bought &#038; paid for by lobbyists &#038; willing to tack in the wind to the prevailing political currents.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 04:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Gregory Hill: &lt;blockquote&gt;We did not shrink nor hide from these historic and fateful events.  We took up the cause of freedom&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Well, that all sounds nice.  But what was the substance of actions taken?  A disastrous invasion of Iraq that had nothing to do with 9/11 &amp; everything to do w. a neocon agenda involving settling scores w. Saddam.  And now how would McCain define &quot;not shrinking fr. history?&quot;  Staying in Iraq for 100 yrs if necessary so that our gamble isn&#039;t lost.
&lt;blockquote&gt;the weak and feckless administration of Jimmy Carter&lt;/blockquote&gt;
That &quot;weak &amp; feckless&quot; administration negotiated a peace treaty bet. Israel &amp; Egypt who only a few yrs before had fought an incredibly bloody &amp; costly war.  That weak &amp; feckless administration&#039;s peace treaty had held since 1979 when, in the interim there has been endless bloodshed bet. Israel &amp; its other Arab neighbors like the Palestinians, Lebanon &amp; Syria.  If that&#039;s &quot;weak &amp; feckless&quot; I&#039;d like to know what &quot;strong &amp; tenacious&quot; is.

The 1979 treaty didn&#039;t solve the entire Middle East conflict.  It only brought peace with Egypt &amp; did that extraordinarily successfully.  So much for yr. grasp of Israeli-Arab history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gregory Hill:<br />
<blockquote>We did not shrink nor hide from these historic and fateful events.  We took up the cause of freedom</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, that all sounds nice.  But what was the substance of actions taken?  A disastrous invasion of Iraq that had nothing to do with 9/11 &#038; everything to do w. a neocon agenda involving settling scores w. Saddam.  And now how would McCain define &#8220;not shrinking fr. history?&#8221;  Staying in Iraq for 100 yrs if necessary so that our gamble isn&#8217;t lost.</p>
<blockquote><p>the weak and feckless administration of Jimmy Carter</p></blockquote>
<p>That &#8220;weak &#038; feckless&#8221; administration negotiated a peace treaty bet. Israel &#038; Egypt who only a few yrs before had fought an incredibly bloody &#038; costly war.  That weak &#038; feckless administration&#8217;s peace treaty had held since 1979 when, in the interim there has been endless bloodshed bet. Israel &#038; its other Arab neighbors like the Palestinians, Lebanon &#038; Syria.  If that&#8217;s &#8220;weak &#038; feckless&#8221; I&#8217;d like to know what &#8220;strong &#038; tenacious&#8221; is.</p>
<p>The 1979 treaty didn&#8217;t solve the entire Middle East conflict.  It only brought peace with Egypt &#038; did that extraordinarily successfully.  So much for yr. grasp of Israeli-Arab history.</p>
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		<title>By: bar_kochba132</title>
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		<dc:creator>bar_kochba132</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 17:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suzanne-that&#039;s what I like about you &quot;progressives&quot;, you are not &quot;divisive&quot;, no, not at all. You show nothing but respect for conservatives, neo-cons and President Bush, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suzanne-that&#8217;s what I like about you &#8220;progressives&#8221;, you are not &#8220;divisive&#8221;, no, not at all. You show nothing but respect for conservatives, neo-cons and President Bush, right?</p>
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