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	<title>Comments on: McCain as Teddy Roosevelt: Speak Awkwardly and Carry a Big Stick</title>
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		<title>By: unknown speaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>unknown speaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just saying that I might of misunderstood what you said*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just saying that I might of misunderstood what you said*</p>
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		<title>By: unknown speaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>unknown speaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plus Teddy Roosevelt wasn&#039;t the youngest president to be elected &gt;.&gt;; John F. Kennedy was. BUT Teddy was the youngest president :3 just not elected because of the assaination of William McKinley</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plus Teddy Roosevelt wasn&#8217;t the youngest president to be elected &gt;.&gt;; John F. Kennedy was. BUT Teddy was the youngest president :3 just not elected because of the assaination of William McKinley</p>
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		<title>By: unknown speaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>unknown speaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Teddy Roosevelt didn&#039;t quit before he ran for president. He didn&#039;t care much about the party he was in, but cared about the people. Later on Teddy tried to run for president for a 3rd term against his ex-best friend Taft. After Taft was the person the Republicans wanted, Teddy left and started his own party, the Bull Moose Party.  Then Wilson became president because the Republicans split up. &gt;.&gt;; sorry, but I LOVE Teddy Roosevelt, he&#039;s one of the best presidents out there in American History :D
Just saying, I misunderstood it &gt;.&gt;;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teddy Roosevelt didn&#8217;t quit before he ran for president. He didn&#8217;t care much about the party he was in, but cared about the people. Later on Teddy tried to run for president for a 3rd term against his ex-best friend Taft. After Taft was the person the Republicans wanted, Teddy left and started his own party, the Bull Moose Party.  Then Wilson became president because the Republicans split up. &gt;.&gt;; sorry, but I LOVE Teddy Roosevelt, he&#8217;s one of the best presidents out there in American History :D<br />
Just saying, I misunderstood it &gt;.&gt;;</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Barker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Barker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 20:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Granted, Roosevelt believed in strengthening the welfare state, as did Bismarck, and he loved animals, was a keen conservationist, an inspiring speaker etc. etc. (the parallels are obvious - at least he wasn`t a vegetarian); but surely in the minus column is his clear advocacy for teutonic (his word) domination of North America. The excerpts of his books I have read are toe-curlingly embarrassing - lots of talk about the superior Anglo-Saxon race and inferior Indians and how the strong races should dominate the weaker ones. Somehow, all this chilling justification for mass murder is shrugged off because an American President wrote it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Granted, Roosevelt believed in strengthening the welfare state, as did Bismarck, and he loved animals, was a keen conservationist, an inspiring speaker etc. etc. (the parallels are obvious &#8211; at least he wasn`t a vegetarian); but surely in the minus column is his clear advocacy for teutonic (his word) domination of North America. The excerpts of his books I have read are toe-curlingly embarrassing &#8211; lots of talk about the superior Anglo-Saxon race and inferior Indians and how the strong races should dominate the weaker ones. Somehow, all this chilling justification for mass murder is shrugged off because an American President wrote it.</p>
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		<title>By: rykart</title>
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		<dc:creator>rykart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;People like you remind me of the Robbespierres of the world. Seeking to attain universal justice through shedding buckets of blood.&quot;

But I&#039;m not the one who wrote up and enacted an item of United States legislation known as the War Crimes Act which mandates the death penalty for precisely the sort of crimes we are talking about. That was done by the &quot;Robbespierres&quot; of the U.S. Congress. I&#039;m merely advocating the application of existing law.

If you think the War Crimes Act is a lousy piece of legislation, I&#039;m happy to hear your arguments. If on the other hand, the point is that United States officials, (you know, the people who actually HAVE shed &quot;buckets of blood&quot; in this world) ought to be immune from the law, that&#039;s also your prerogative. Obviously, many disagree, particularly the survivors of My Lai, Haditha, Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Fallujah,  Abu Ghraib and all the other U.S. torture chambers, the Iraq war overall (a stupendous war crime), and so forth. 

Famous author and Charles Manson prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi has just released a book calling for Bush to be tried for murder. He says the case is exceptionally strong and as prosecutor, he would seek the death penalty. (Bugliosi has never lost a murder case.)

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/07/business/media/07bugliosi.html?_r=1&amp;scp=3&amp;sq=bugliosi&amp;st=cse&amp;oref=slogin

Former Reagan admin Assistant Secretary of the Treasury Paul Craig Roberts happens to have a fine article today speaking to the topic of American hypocrisy concerning war crimes:

http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts07162008.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;People like you remind me of the Robbespierres of the world. Seeking to attain universal justice through shedding buckets of blood.&#8221;</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m not the one who wrote up and enacted an item of United States legislation known as the War Crimes Act which mandates the death penalty for precisely the sort of crimes we are talking about. That was done by the &#8220;Robbespierres&#8221; of the U.S. Congress. I&#8217;m merely advocating the application of existing law.</p>
<p>If you think the War Crimes Act is a lousy piece of legislation, I&#8217;m happy to hear your arguments. If on the other hand, the point is that United States officials, (you know, the people who actually HAVE shed &#8220;buckets of blood&#8221; in this world) ought to be immune from the law, that&#8217;s also your prerogative. Obviously, many disagree, particularly the survivors of My Lai, Haditha, Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Fallujah,  Abu Ghraib and all the other U.S. torture chambers, the Iraq war overall (a stupendous war crime), and so forth. </p>
<p>Famous author and Charles Manson prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi has just released a book calling for Bush to be tried for murder. He says the case is exceptionally strong and as prosecutor, he would seek the death penalty. (Bugliosi has never lost a murder case.)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/07/business/media/07bugliosi.html?_r=1&#038;scp=3&#038;sq=bugliosi&#038;st=cse&#038;oref=slogin" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/07/business/media/07bugliosi.html?_r=1&#038;scp=3&#038;sq=bugliosi&#038;st=cse&#038;oref=slogin</a></p>
<p>Former Reagan admin Assistant Secretary of the Treasury Paul Craig Roberts happens to have a fine article today speaking to the topic of American hypocrisy concerning war crimes:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts07162008.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts07162008.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@rykart:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;the failure to execute Harry Truman laid the groundwork for the subsequent half-century of genocide &lt;/blockquote&gt;
I&#039;m always amused by uber-leftists like you who seem to believe that the law exists in some sort of exalted palace and that it must be interpreted as absolute &amp; immutable.  People like you remind me of the Robbespierres of the world.  Seeking to attain universal justice through shedding buckets of blood.

Unfortunately, law in reality exists in a real &amp; imperfect world.  It is applied the best and most consistent way possible.  Perfect justice is never done.  I don&#039;t think our Founding Fathers ever foresaw executing the nation&#039;s chief executive and I&#039;m not surprised it&#039;s never happened.  I&#039;m so thankfully absolutists like you will never control the levers of power.

I sympathize with many of the crimes you speak about &amp; acknowledge their severity.  I don&#039;t acknowledge yr remedy as being either possible or desirable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@rykart:</p>
<blockquote><p>the failure to execute Harry Truman laid the groundwork for the subsequent half-century of genocide </p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m always amused by uber-leftists like you who seem to believe that the law exists in some sort of exalted palace and that it must be interpreted as absolute &#038; immutable.  People like you remind me of the Robbespierres of the world.  Seeking to attain universal justice through shedding buckets of blood.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, law in reality exists in a real &#038; imperfect world.  It is applied the best and most consistent way possible.  Perfect justice is never done.  I don&#8217;t think our Founding Fathers ever foresaw executing the nation&#8217;s chief executive and I&#8217;m not surprised it&#8217;s never happened.  I&#8217;m so thankfully absolutists like you will never control the levers of power.</p>
<p>I sympathize with many of the crimes you speak about &#038; acknowledge their severity.  I don&#8217;t acknowledge yr remedy as being either possible or desirable.</p>
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		<title>By: rykart</title>
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		<dc:creator>rykart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...one final point, bearing on McCain. So comfortable are US leaders with total immunity for high crimes, that they are often willing to openly declare themselves guilty. McCain famously did so on 60 minutes: &quot;I am a war criminal&quot; he said. &quot;I bombed innocent women and children.&quot; 

Ditto for Bob Kerry, who revealed his participation in a massacre in Indochina in which he murdered civilians and slit the throat of an elderly man. No indictment. No nothing. He wasn&#039;t even forced to step down as Dean of the (supposedly progressive) New School in New York. The matter has long since been forgotten, (though presumably, the memory remains indelible for the residents of Thanh Phong village).

Such is the society we have created, one viewed by the civilized world with appropriate revulsion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;one final point, bearing on McCain. So comfortable are US leaders with total immunity for high crimes, that they are often willing to openly declare themselves guilty. McCain famously did so on 60 minutes: &#8220;I am a war criminal&#8221; he said. &#8220;I bombed innocent women and children.&#8221; </p>
<p>Ditto for Bob Kerry, who revealed his participation in a massacre in Indochina in which he murdered civilians and slit the throat of an elderly man. No indictment. No nothing. He wasn&#8217;t even forced to step down as Dean of the (supposedly progressive) New School in New York. The matter has long since been forgotten, (though presumably, the memory remains indelible for the residents of Thanh Phong village).</p>
<p>Such is the society we have created, one viewed by the civilized world with appropriate revulsion.</p>
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		<title>By: rykart</title>
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		<dc:creator>rykart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elsewhere, Chomsky makes the more relevant point that all the presidential acts he described would easily qualify as war crimes under U.S. law, specifically, the War Crimes Act, signed into law by a republican congress. The punishment for such crimes is not impeachment. It is not a fine, or community service. The punishment is the death penalty. So it&#039;s fairly straightforward: either we follow the rule of law and execute the presidents, or we declare ourselves an outlaw state.

I would say in particular, that the failure to execute Harry Truman laid the groundwork  for the subsequent half-century of genocide by the United States. Once you declare that the deliberate incineration of two civilian population centers with atomic weapons is not a war crime, you basically say that there is no such thing as a war crime so far as the U.S is concerned. This is precisely the premise we have operated under since WWII, (with predictably horrifying results). 

Israel, of course, takes a somewhat different approach. They have simply legalized war crimes such as house demolitions, assassinations, use of human shields, targeting of civilians, destruction of infrastructure essential to life, expulsions and torture. The Bush administration, apparently inspired by this can-do spirit, has sought to bring the law into consonance with longstanding US policy, declaring the Geneva Conventions &quot;quaint&quot;, legalizing wars of aggression, denial of habeas corpus, torture and what have you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elsewhere, Chomsky makes the more relevant point that all the presidential acts he described would easily qualify as war crimes under U.S. law, specifically, the War Crimes Act, signed into law by a republican congress. The punishment for such crimes is not impeachment. It is not a fine, or community service. The punishment is the death penalty. So it&#8217;s fairly straightforward: either we follow the rule of law and execute the presidents, or we declare ourselves an outlaw state.</p>
<p>I would say in particular, that the failure to execute Harry Truman laid the groundwork  for the subsequent half-century of genocide by the United States. Once you declare that the deliberate incineration of two civilian population centers with atomic weapons is not a war crime, you basically say that there is no such thing as a war crime so far as the U.S is concerned. This is precisely the premise we have operated under since WWII, (with predictably horrifying results). </p>
<p>Israel, of course, takes a somewhat different approach. They have simply legalized war crimes such as house demolitions, assassinations, use of human shields, targeting of civilians, destruction of infrastructure essential to life, expulsions and torture. The Bush administration, apparently inspired by this can-do spirit, has sought to bring the law into consonance with longstanding US policy, declaring the Geneva Conventions &#8220;quaint&#8221;, legalizing wars of aggression, denial of habeas corpus, torture and what have you.</p>
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