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10 Responses to “Israeli Minister Breaks Boycott, Asks Carter to Arrange Hamas Meeting”

1. aj says:

   April 18, 2008 at 11:26 PM

   The 64% of Israelis who want to negotiate with Hamas do it because they realize that there is little difference between Hamas and Fatah, which are equally murderous terrorist groups. This is unlike you and Jimmy Carter, who actually sympathize with the goals of these groups.
   And wouldn’t the correct translation be Kesef?

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2. Richard Silverstein says:

   April 19, 2008 at 12:56 AM

   you and Jimmy Carter, who actually sympathize with the goals of these groups.

   You are a liar and if you keep deliberately mischaracterizing my views you’ll not publish another comment here. Cut out the snark. If you want to comment and disagree do so. If you want to smear, go elsewhere.

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3. Joe says:

   April 19, 2008 at 10:27 AM

   Strange bedfellows. Shas epitomizes low life, embezzling, bottom of the barrel. And you will sleep with dogs if they share your view. Carter is an absolute nobody. He is beyond contempt. More than likely, Yishai sees the possibility of pockets a few shekels with the the Shas call to arms.

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4. LeaNder says:

   April 19, 2008 at 12:31 PM

   My snore quote of April 18th:
   “This is unlike you and Jimmy Carter, who actually sympathize with the goals of these groups.”

   Why can’t the shepherds invent a couple of new slogans for their sheep? We are all a bit bored by now by this equation.

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5. Blonfelfelch says:

   April 20, 2008 at 3:16 AM

   I don’t think this is that significant – Yishai isn’t breaking the government policy as he’s been quite explicit that he only wants to meet with Hamas vis-a-vis the prisoner exchange, rather than more comprehensive issues.

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6. Richard Silverstein says:

   April 20, 2008 at 3:26 AM

   You are wrong. No Israeli cabinet minister has met directly with Hamas, yet Yishai wishes to do so. No Israeli cabinet minister met with Carter on this trip except Yishai. So Yishai broke 2 boycotts. That’s big stuff. SOrry you don’t recognize that.

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7. Blonfelfelch says:

   April 20, 2008 at 4:18 AM

   He’s said he wishes to do so in the knowledge that his membership in the cabinet precludes him from doing that. And I’m not sure how formal the ‘boycott’ of Carter was – i.e. whether or not cabinet ministers were actually told not to meet him. If he actually does meet with Meshal – which I very much doubt – then there will be a story there.

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8. Richard Silverstein says:

   April 20, 2008 at 9:32 PM

   @Joe: I’m always amused by people who point fingers at the “other guys” in Israeli politics warning how corrupt THEY are. While of course MY party is pure as the driven snow. Is Shas corrupt? Sure. But isn’t the system basically encouraging them to be corrupt or at least winking its eye at it?

   I don’t like Israel being a theocracy. At the time when the Orthodox stop having a monopoly on certain social functions (like education–at least the education of their own), then I’ll be the first in line to say: “Stop this.” But as long as Israel remains a theocracy then I’m afraid what Shas does is merely manipulate the system in ways the system allows it to.

   I don’t approve of Shas’ corruption nor of its views on religious affairs. But its views on the I-P conflict are often quite moderate & therefore worth listening to.

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9. Israeli says:

   April 24, 2008 at 11:38 AM

   Not very related to the subject, but I’m thinking, since no Seculars nor Ashkenazim are allowed in Shas, is this an ‘apartheid’ party?

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10. Richard Silverstein says:

    April 24, 2008 at 2:46 PM

    Shas certainly is what I’d call a “tribal” political party based on narrow ethnic/religious outlook. That’s what I have against it. But then again, it feels somewhat more affinity for both Mizrahi Israelis & the Arab world in general. So it brings something to the table that the Ashkenazi dominated parties don’t.

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