Comments on: Presidential Candidates Gun-Shy on Israeli-Palestinian Conflict

By: Richard Silverstein

Richard Silverstein — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 20:42:34 +0000

You may replace the name “Pipes’ with any number of other propagandists like “Dershowitz” or Irving Moskowitz or many others. They also ‘moralize’ in support of some fairly odious Israeli nationalist positions. And they do so from the comfort of places like “California,” or New York, etc.

By: Amir

Amir — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 20:14:58 +0000

You might find this hard to believe, but I can’t recall if I have ever read an article by Daniel Pipes. I may have, I just don’t rmember. I’ve been to his his website but I think I just looked through it.

By: Richard Silverstein

Richard Silverstein — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 19:59:55 +0000

OK, now I understand. Yes, I believe that Mary lives in California. Though I still think yours was a cheap shot. In this global age it matters less & less where people live in terms of their various political commitments. As for Mary’s alleged moralizing, I’ll bet you have very little problem with extremist settler supporters here in the States like Daniel Pipes “immoralizing” about how disgusting Palestinians are. You just don’t like one side’s moralizing. You’re pretty happy with the other’s. That’s a little inconsistency.

Thanks for clarifying what you meant though. I didn’t follow it when I first read it.

By: Amir

Amir — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:01:33 +0000

I was referring to Mary Hughes living in California. I found that on a counterpunch article. I assume she is Mary Hughes-Thompson. I meant that she was writing on your blog. Sorry. I don’t recall the first time I said you lived in California. Perhaps that too was a misunderstanding.

By: Richard Silverstein

Richard Silverstein — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 10:01:57 +0000

a person living in California, who lives there due to the past racist ideology of “white man’s burden” and the mesianic ideology of “manifest destiny” on land acquired through warfare on a blog by a man living on territrory “stolen” from the Duwamish and Suquamish tribes…

This is the 2nd time you’ve made the ludicrous mistake of accusing me of living in California. What’s odd is you figured out that the Duwamish & Suquamish tribes live in area where I reside, yet you seem to think Seattle is in California. You once told me you were Israeli-American. I’m beginning to think you haven’t told the truth. Or else you’re deeply geographically-challenged. Oh, & you left out the Skykomish, Swinomish, Snohomish and several other regional tribes.

It’s a bit hard for me to see how the grandchild of Jewish immigrants from Poland is guilty for the crimes committed by American colonialist WASPs well before my ancestors arrived in this country.

By: Richard Silverstein

Richard Silverstein — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 09:41:13 +0000

Your saying that Israel has to pull every Jew back over the geen line…And take in 600,000 of those happy go lucky lads from Islamic Jihad and Hamas.

I was trying to be polite, Bill. But I’m done with that. You’re totally obtuse. I said return to the Green Line with some territorial modifications. Are you dense or don’t you understand that this means that not all settlers will have to return over the Green Line? A very small amt. of territory containing the largest number of settlers would be retained in exchange for Israeli territory elsewhere.

And I said that 600,000 might be eligible to return but that far fewer would.

And DO NOT use the term “Judenrein” (you can’t even spell) in the context of the I-P conflict in this blog. That’s grounds for banning here. Do it again & you’re permanently banned. In fact, I’m sick & tired of yr bilge. You’re hereby banned.

By: mary hughes

mary hughes — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 05:20:36 +0000

Not at all, Bill. Jews should be able to live in the West Bank, as Palestinian Jews, just as there are Palestinian Muslims and Palestinian Christians. I travel all over the West Bank with Jewish friends, and nobody seems to care much what our religious persuasions are. None of us, of course, carry weapons.

Your Judenrhein comment tells it all. I just wish Israel would stop trying to ethnically cleanse the land outside of Israel of its Palestinian population and give peace a chance. The occupation is worst for the Palestinians, of course, as it is meant to be. But it’s not exactly good for the Israelis. Terrorism will always beget counter-terrorism, as the Nazis discovered in the Warsaw Ghetto. Of course the side with the biggest weapons and the smallest moral compass often prevails in the short term, but history will be the final judge.

By: Bill Pearlman

Bill Pearlman — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 03:59:02 +0000

I understand the plan Mary. The West Bank is to be, I believe the expression is “judenrhein”. Then 4-5 million Palestinians are given the right to move into Israel but of course you can guaranttee that only a small percentage will do that. But of course the rest get compensation for their marble palaces and orange groves that were destroyed by the Zionist jackboot. All Jewish religious sites come under Palestinian control. But, we’re not talking population exchange because Israeli Arabs, who by very right should be fleeing the genocide being carried out by the Judeo-Nazi’s don’t seem to want to leave. Do I have it right. I really can’t imagine why this doesn’t pass 120-0 in the knesset.