Thanks for clarifying what you meant though. I didn’t follow it when I first read it.

a person living in California, who lives there due to the past racist ideology of “white man’s burden” and the mesianic ideology of “manifest destiny” on land acquired through warfare on a blog by a man living on territrory “stolen” from the Duwamish and Suquamish tribes…

This is the 2nd time you’ve made the ludicrous mistake of accusing me of living in California. What’s odd is you figured out that the Duwamish & Suquamish tribes live in area where I reside, yet you seem to think Seattle is in California. You once told me you were Israeli-American. I’m beginning to think you haven’t told the truth. Or else you’re deeply geographically-challenged. Oh, & you left out the Skykomish, Swinomish, Snohomish and several other regional tribes.

It’s a bit hard for me to see how the grandchild of Jewish immigrants from Poland is guilty for the crimes committed by American colonialist WASPs well before my ancestors arrived in this country.

Your saying that Israel has to pull every Jew back over the geen line…And take in 600,000 of those happy go lucky lads from Islamic Jihad and Hamas.

I was trying to be polite, Bill. But I’m done with that. You’re totally obtuse. I said return to the Green Line with some territorial modifications. Are you dense or don’t you understand that this means that not all settlers will have to return over the Green Line? A very small amt. of territory containing the largest number of settlers would be retained in exchange for Israeli territory elsewhere.

And I said that 600,000 might be eligible to return but that far fewer would.

And DO NOT use the term “Judenrein” (you can’t even spell) in the context of the I-P conflict in this blog. That’s grounds for banning here. Do it again & you’re permanently banned. In fact, I’m sick & tired of yr bilge. You’re hereby banned.

Your Judenrhein comment tells it all. I just wish Israel would stop trying to ethnically cleanse the land outside of Israel of its Palestinian population and give peace a chance. The occupation is worst for the Palestinians, of course, as it is meant to be. But it’s not exactly good for the Israelis. Terrorism will always beget counter-terrorism, as the Nazis discovered in the Warsaw Ghetto. Of course the side with the biggest weapons and the smallest moral compass often prevails in the short term, but history will be the final judge.

It isn’t a matter of whether Israel wants these Palestinians to return to their land, but a matter of what Israel is required to accept as international law.

As Richard said, it’s doubtful that many displaced Palestinians would want to return to their land, or live under Israeli rule, particularly in view of the apartheid rule which prevails in Israel.

Many of them would, however, appreciate being able to at least visit the villages inhabited by their ancestors for many generations, which Israel has never allowed them to do. And of course Israel must pay restitution for everything that was stolen from the Palestinians who were driven out, even as Germany continues to pay restitution to Jews for the property stolen from them.

As for Jewish settlers east of the green line, of course they must leave, since they have always been living there illegally, so long as Israel claims those areas as “Israel.” If individual colonists choose to apply for Palestinian residency and live under Palestinian rule and control with rights equal to the Palestinian population, then I’m sure this would be acceptable, so long as they surrender their Uzis and stop flying the Israeli flag, which has no place in Palestine. Any who want to continue living under Israel rule must of course go back to Israel. Where do you have a problem with that, Bill?

There is no parity between Israeli Arabs who have Israeli citizenship and Israeli Jews living on Palestinian land outside of Israel in contravention of international law, and it is disingenuous to make such comparisons.

As far as “territorial adjustments” I don’t see how that could work. So long as there are Jewish colonies inside Palestine there will always be Israeli soldiers “protecting them.” Having spent a great deal of time in the West Bank I can assure you it is the Palestinians who need protection from the settlers, many of whom are violent sociopaths driven by biblical mumbo jumbo that they claim gives them all of the land due to some divine right.

I don’t know if you’ve spent any time in Hebron, but I suggest you make a point of visiting the area to see for yourself the price the Palestinian civilian population pays for owning and existing on land coveted by the zionist state.

The reality, however, is that there isn’t enough left of the West Bank to form a state, while the people of Gaza being systematically starved. So it is becoming increasingly clear, especially to the zionist camp, that unless something changes Israel’s direction there will be a single state for all the people. Since the Palestinians aren’t going anywhere, it’s just a matter of time before the Jewish majority, and consequently the Jewish state, will be history. Of course it will be an apartheid state for the foreseeable future, but justice will prevail. In the end the Palestinians’ patience will be rewarded and they will be granted peace.

Insha’Allah