But not only are YOU the racist, as you’ve proved myriad times here. But you are a liar as well, since I’ve never said that Jews don’t deserve a state. It’s just that they state they deserve cannot be theirs alone. It must be shared because 20% of its citizens are NOT Jewish and the state is theirs as well. And to be shared means it must guarantee equal rights to non-Jews as well as Jews.

Oh yea? find me the clause that says so

Ask and ye shall find:

It [The State of Israel] will foster the development of the country for the benefit of all its inhabitants; it will be based on freedom, justice and peace as envisaged by the prophets of Israel; it will ensure complete equality of social and political rights to all its inhabitants irrespective of religion, race or sex; it will guarantee freedom of religion, conscience, language, education and culture; it will safeguard the Holy Places of all religions…

–Israel’s Declaration of Independence

A state of all its citizens, just as I have said.

In many European “Western Democracy” countries I could have you arrested merely for this last statement of yours

What a liar! I dare you to even try. In fact, your views are very close to Moshe Feiglin’s & HE himself has been banned from entering Britain & would be arrested if HE stepped foot there.

you are the intolerant, fascist one of us

If you label banning you as “fascism” it shows just how little you really know about fascism. BTW, you might want to look at some of the policiticians you most fervently support like Feiglin, Marzel & others if you really want to see the face of Jewish fascism.

You are an arab, so you are inferior to me as a human being”
which is something you’ll never hear from me, i don’t think that nor do i promote these kinds of claims.

What I’M saying is: “You hate my guts just for being anything other than muslim

You’re not only a racist, but a liar. Israeli Arabs do not hate the guts of Israeli Jews though they may hate the guts of Jews who hold such racist views as you. In general, Israeli Arabs are far less racist toward Jews and far more loyal to the notion of the state of Israel than idiots like you give them credit. Opinion surveys have proven this beyond a shadow of a doubt though I doubt you’d be caught dead reading any Israeli publication that would report on such a survey since it would sully your perverted ideas about Arabs.

you are a hypocrite of the lowest kind and a supporter of terror.

I’m sorry. I just called you an idiot. No, you’re even worse. I said settlers have reason to fear Arab attacks. It was not a justification for them. It was a statement of fact. Settlers are the target of attack by Palestinians. STATEMENT. OF. FACT. Go suck on that.

limit the freedom of speech to those who agree with you.

If that were true I would have banned every one of the approx. 8,000 comments published here which disagree w. my views. Anyone with eyes in their head can read my comment thread and see there are people here I don’t ban who disagree with me. BUt they still comment here, unlike you, because they’re not angry, hateful, insolent, racist, smearmongers like you.

Oh yea? find me the clause that says so ;)

“an authoritarian, exclusivist Jewish state, no democracy at all, & in fact a racist enterprise”

The real racist claim is that the Jews don’t have a right to their own country – you are the real racist my friend, infact you’re joining quite the bunch of Antisemitic self hating jews just by claiming that.
In many European “Western Democracy” countries I could have you arrested merely for this last statement of yours.
You are a racist claiming jews cannot have the right to self and exclusive definition. You are an Anti Semite in disguise of a man of equal rights and peace. a Hypocrite of the worst and lowest kind!

“What an interesting slip. I wish I could believe you too, but I can’t. The fact that YOU can’t believe you only reinforces your problem.”

Out of claims are we? resorting to childish frivolous shots in the dark just so no one can accuse you of not accusing me of something?
Sad… Really Sad…

“This marks you clearly as a settler.”

Hmm no no, I live just south of Tel Aviv, this just comes to show how much you really know Israeli culture.

“Your racist statements against Arabs are a clear violation of my comment rules. Any further violations will cause you to be banned.”

HAHA, grasping at straws really won’t make your statements any more true. It’s not for you to decide what’s a racist remark and what’s not merely on the basis of you not agreeing with me. Banning me would simply prove over a shadow of a doubt that you are the intolerant, fascist one of us.
Do your racist remarks against jews violate your comments rules?
No?.. I didn’t think so…

I have said nothing racist, in fact i’m very much against racism.
See – Racism would be saying: “You are an arab, so you are inferior to me as a human being”
which is something you’ll never hear from me, i don’t think that nor do i promote these kinds of claims.

What I’M saying is: “You hate my guts just for being anything other than muslim for over 60 years now, you want to kill me and you have tried your fair share ever since 60 years ago, you still say it out loud in every rally and demonstration (If you don’t believe me just ask ill send you clips although you’ll undoubtedly ignore even clear documentation) and so if you’re not willing to be a peaceful law abiding citizen you will not get equal civil rights here regardless of any other factors!!!

there isn’t any country in the entire world that would!!!!

If you were a cop and you would have pulled a drunk driver over who just happens to be black and immediately he would have pulled the “Race” card on you – would you think it’s a legitimate move? Because that’s exactly what you’re doing to me.

and finaly –
“unless they are settlers who indeed have reason to fear Arab attacks”

Notice you are justifying terrorist acts against civilians, you have just dropped your mask and showed everyone you are no man of peace, you are no man of tolerance
you are a hypocrite of the lowest kind and a supporter of terror.
You should be ashamed of yourself, but ofcourse one can never confuse your kind with facts…

Ban me all you like it will only reflect on your own fear of the truth and your own agenda to limit the freedom of speech to those who agree with you.

Israel doesn’t call itself a western democracy it calls itself “A Jewish and Democratic state”

Perhaps you can enlighten us as to the diff. bet. “western democracy” and a “democratic state.” There is precisely no difference. Unless you’d like to claim that Israeli democracy is different from democracies in the rest of the world. I’d like to see you claim that. It would make you a laughingstock.

Israel is not a state of all it’s citizens it’s The Jewish state.

And indeed you have just done so. You have just denied that Israel is a democracy. Since we know that Israel is, or at least claims it is a democracy. That would make you full of crap. Israel IS a state of all its citizens. It says so in its Declaration of Independence. Or perhaps you’d like to nullify that? Go right ahead and try.

There are NOT two classes of citizens in Israel, at least not formally. YOur claim that there are is entirely specious. I’d urge you to try to formally put in place these claims of yours. Then it would be even easier for Israel’s enemies to claim that it was an authoritarian, exclusivist Jewish state, no democracy at all, & in fact a racist enterprise. Your hate is a perfect exemplar of this.

our Shin Bet is held captive by the government, it doesn’t get the free reign it should trust me

Trust you? What a laugh. I’d no sooner trust you than I would trust Stalin or Pol Pot to run a democracy. But it is fun to note the hard-on you have for Israeli intelligence agencies. Perhaps you’d like to tell us a bit more about yr professional background? It wouldn’t include a stint in one of those stellar organizations, would it?

by the time it makes an accusation you can be damn sure it’s true

This really getting to be fun…I can be damn sure the Shin Bet never makes a false accusation? Really now. Excuse me while I spew my morning coffee.

God, I wish I could believe me…

What an interesting slip. I wish I could believe you too, but I can’t. The fact that YOU can’t believe you only reinforces your problem.

in a country where you have to go armed in the streets since the very begining of the country from fear an arab might jump on you

This marks you clearly as a settler. The average Israeli civilian does not go “armed in the streets.” Never has and never will. Perhaps in certain situations Israelis are armed. But not in normal everyday situations unless they are settlers who indeed have reason to fear Arab attacks.

Your racist statements against Arabs are a clear violation of my comment rules. Any further violations will cause you to be banned.

Ahh that’s a very good point and will probably remain a good point for highschool civics class because Israel doesn’t call itself a western democracy it calls itself “A Jewish and Democratic state”!
In Pure western eyes this would forever be a conflict I admit, but with all due respect – after being persecuted and slaughtered for hundreds (and I wont mention the thousands) of years the Jewish people is fully entitled to it’s own state.
Israel is not a state of all it’s citizens it’s The Jewish state.
Arabs are and should be entitled to all basic civilian rights but not the same when it comes to buy lands or other benefits that come from serving in the military NO.
This won’t settle with you I know but we have EVERY right to it.

No – arabs are not entitled to all rights as Jews and trust me – arabs that are atleast loyal to the state and not try to destroy it from within get a whole lot more than those who don’t.

About Bshara – the biggest Irony in what you’re saying about accusations from an intellegence organization, which is true, is that our Shin Bet is held captive by the government, it doesn’t get the free reign it should trust me
by the time it makes an accusation you can be damn sure it’s true, plus since you obviously have no idea what Bshara was about before running away you really should refrain from protecting him so gallantly you’re shaming yourself.

“You live in yr own comfortable little insular world & never allow a disturbing thought or Arab to enter into it”

God, I wish I could believe me…
But in a country where you have to go armed in the streets since the very begining of the country from fear an arab might jump on you and try to stab or linch you i’m afraid that’s just not that possible…
and for that reason alone btw – why the hell should we give them same rights?
when they plot at the Campuses standing with “Death to all Jews” signs like at my campus this week…

There will never be peace when the majority are waiting patiently to see this state weak, pretending to talk about the need to solve our differences with talk and not violence, and the second they think they see a crack in the shield they mass up and try to tear it down and bring upon us another holocaust.

Fortunately, like we saw this week – they will never succeed.

last time I checked Israel is a jewish state and the arabs [sic] are a minority.

Last time I checked Israel called itself a western democracy and Arabs are full citizens entitled to all the rights & privileges enjoyed by any citizen of the nation. Or are Arabs entitled to less rights than Jews? If so, then that wouldn’t make Israel a democracy now would it?

Azmi Bshara was the chairman of “Balad” and was VERY MUCH proven a terrorist and a spy

Let me patiently explain this to you. In most western democracies, an accusation levelled by a state intelligence agency isn’t enough to convict anyone of anything. Those countries with judicial systems usually require a trial before guilt is ascertained. Apparently, you’ve dispensed with such niceties & a mere charge from a Shin Bet agent is sufficient to determine guilt. Welcome to Stalin’s Russia or Pol Pot’s Cambodia.

calling me an extremist has no baring [sic] on reality

No, it’s you who have little bearing on reality. You live in yr own comfortable little insular world & never allow a disturbing thought or Arab to enter into it. Congratulations.

LOL

last time I checked Israel is a jewish state and the arabs are a minority.
I don’t know in what weird twisted universe you live in but obviously you’re not one to be too connected with reality, it’s a shame i’m wasting my energy on you…

secondly:
“Azmi Bishara is NOT chairman of any Israeli Arab party. He has been proven neither a terrorist or spy except by rightist Israeli extremists like you”

Well, Azmi Bshara was the chairman of “Balad” and was VERY MUCH proven a terrorist and a spy but wasnt put on trial because he simply managed to run away before that

calling me an extremist has no baring on reality since you obviously don’t know where the middle lies.
good luck with inventing your own reality in your head, one that helps you live with yourself, ignoring the real one.