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	<title>Comments on: Neuwirth Loses Libel Case Against Tikun Olam</title>
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		<title>By: Glenn Condell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn Condell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 05:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You've helped draw a line in the sand Richard, thanks and congrats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve helped draw a line in the sand Richard, thanks and congrats.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Schamess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Schamess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 14:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard, congrats -- I'm glad for your sake that you won the suit; and this also tends to confirm my suspicion that the rabid anti-Arab types out there are not so much "people with strongly held opinions different from mine" as "complete idiots."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard, congrats &#8212; I&#8217;m glad for your sake that you won the suit; and this also tends to confirm my suspicion that the rabid anti-Arab types out there are not so much &#8220;people with strongly held opinions different from mine&#8221; as &#8220;complete idiots.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Hayden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Hayden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll add my congrats at your backbone and success. as one more prone to serious insults (I would have included "and your mama dresses you funny") I also applaud your restraint. Compared to the daily insults throughout the blogosphere, yours remains the domain of a real mensch.

Kudos, to you, sir, and keep up the good works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll add my congrats at your backbone and success. as one more prone to serious insults (I would have included &#8220;and your mama dresses you funny&#8221;) I also applaud your restraint. Compared to the daily insults throughout the blogosphere, yours remains the domain of a real mensch.</p>
<p>Kudos, to you, sir, and keep up the good works.</p>
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		<title>By: BartBlog - The Blog of BartCop.com &#187; One Small Step For Blogkind</title>
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		<dc:creator>BartBlog - The Blog of BartCop.com &#187; One Small Step For Blogkind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 04:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the Shag Fund scandal*. But former fellow Open Source Politics blogger Richard Silverstein has just successfully defended himself from a libel lawsuit brought against him by Rachael Neuwirth for content on his blog**:  Tonight is not a good night for [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the Shag Fund scandal*. But former fellow Open Source Politics blogger Richard Silverstein has just successfully defended himself from a libel lawsuit brought against him by Rachael Neuwirth for content on his blog**:  Tonight is not a good night for [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 01:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Yaman.  As someone who faced almost precisely the same type of legal persecution, I only wish your case could've gone better.

Jerry's story of the baal koreh reminds me of the midrash about &lt;a href="http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:ZlnSqJsvCXIJ:www.socialaction.com/issues/freedom_violence/Hate_Crimes1.shtml+%22senseless+hatred%22+%26+midrash&#038;hl=en&#038;ct=clnk&#038;cd=5&#038;gl=us" rel="nofollow"&gt;sinat chinum&lt;/a&gt; which destroyed the Temple: pointless hatred between brothers which so weakens the Jewish fabric that the community is destroyed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Yaman.  As someone who faced almost precisely the same type of legal persecution, I only wish your case could&#8217;ve gone better.</p>
<p>Jerry&#8217;s story of the baal koreh reminds me of the midrash about <a href="http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:ZlnSqJsvCXIJ:www.socialaction.com/issues/freedom_violence/Hate_Crimes1.shtml+%22senseless+hatred%22+%26+midrash&#038;hl=en&#038;ct=clnk&#038;cd=5&#038;gl=us" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:ZlnSqJsvCXIJ:www.socialaction.com/issues/freedom_violence/Hate_Crimes1.shtml+%22senseless+hatred%22+%26+midrash&#038;hl=en&#038;ct=clnk&#038;cd=5&#038;gl=us');">sinat chinum</a> which destroyed the Temple: pointless hatred between brothers which so weakens the Jewish fabric that the community is destroyed.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Greenstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Greenstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well first congratulations!  This is an excellent victory for free speech on Palestine and Zionism.  I didn't understand the point you made about 'Rachel's key defense' since she was the plaintiff and you were the defendant, but I assume you meant her primary argument rather than defence.

I don't think Zhu Bajie is right that the reference to 'traitors' is to Roehm's and other blackshirts murder.  They weren't considered traitors but dangerous radicals whose 'anti-capitalism' (in the eyes of the industrialists and army chiefs) would endanger the Nazi project.  I think the reference is more sinister - to the placing of socialists, trade unionists and other anti-fascist Germans in Dachau etc., where of course most were murdered.  They were the traitors because they were seen as internationalists and therefore traitors to the Volk.

By coincidence, I sued The Times in London for defamation earlier this year and the settlement has just been agreed, which involves agreed damages paid to the Palestinian Friends of Bir Zeit University charity and an apology on the link below.
http://timesonline.typepad.com/david_aaronovitch/2007/11/tony-greenstein.html

Some may think this an attack on free speech but I would disagree.  The accusation, totally false, that I have spent most of my life intimidating and harassing Jewish students, i.e. that I am anti-Semitic, is designed to close down free speech.  Numerous times when having been invited to speak on campus the allegation that I am 'anti-Semitic' is raised.  This is a way of closing off this particular attack.

Anyway well done!

Tony Greenstein</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well first congratulations!  This is an excellent victory for free speech on Palestine and Zionism.  I didn&#8217;t understand the point you made about &#8216;Rachel&#8217;s key defense&#8217; since she was the plaintiff and you were the defendant, but I assume you meant her primary argument rather than defence.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Zhu Bajie is right that the reference to &#8216;traitors&#8217; is to Roehm&#8217;s and other blackshirts murder.  They weren&#8217;t considered traitors but dangerous radicals whose &#8216;anti-capitalism&#8217; (in the eyes of the industrialists and army chiefs) would endanger the Nazi project.  I think the reference is more sinister - to the placing of socialists, trade unionists and other anti-fascist Germans in Dachau etc., where of course most were murdered.  They were the traitors because they were seen as internationalists and therefore traitors to the Volk.</p>
<p>By coincidence, I sued The Times in London for defamation earlier this year and the settlement has just been agreed, which involves agreed damages paid to the Palestinian Friends of Bir Zeit University charity and an apology on the link below.<br />
<a href="http://timesonline.typepad.com/david_aaronovitch/2007/11/tony-greenstein.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/http://timesonline.typepad.com/david_aaronovitch/2007/11/tony-greenstein.html');">http://timesonline.typepad.com/david_aaronovitch/2007/11/tony-greenstein.html</a></p>
<p>Some may think this an attack on free speech but I would disagree.  The accusation, totally false, that I have spent most of my life intimidating and harassing Jewish students, i.e. that I am anti-Semitic, is designed to close down free speech.  Numerous times when having been invited to speak on campus the allegation that I am &#8216;anti-Semitic&#8217; is raised.  This is a way of closing off this particular attack.</p>
<p>Anyway well done!</p>
<p>Tony Greenstein</p>
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		<title>By: yaman</title>
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		<dc:creator>yaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 23:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations Richard, glad to hear the good news!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations Richard, glad to hear the good news!</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Haber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry Haber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 23:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shammai could have told you about the true story of the leftwing baal-koreh (Torah reader), a noted Israeli human rights lawyer, who was barred in a modern orthodox shul from publicly reading from the Torah when a rightwing congregant complained about him. T

Only he is too modest to tell such stories -- and I am deeply ashamed to have to repeat them.

Jerry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shammai could have told you about the true story of the leftwing baal-koreh (Torah reader), a noted Israeli human rights lawyer, who was barred in a modern orthodox shul from publicly reading from the Torah when a rightwing congregant complained about him. T</p>
<p>Only he is too modest to tell such stories &#8212; and I am deeply ashamed to have to repeat them.</p>
<p>Jerry</p>
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		<title>By: Zhu Bajie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zhu Bajie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 22:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"She noted that Hitler took care of those who were traitors first (not sure what this means exactly)."

Perhaps she refers to "The Night of the Long Knives" when Hitler had rival Nazis murdered.

Zhu Bajie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;She noted that Hitler took care of those who were traitors first (not sure what this means exactly).&#8221;</p>
<p>Perhaps she refers to &#8220;The Night of the Long Knives&#8221; when Hitler had rival Nazis murdered.</p>
<p>Zhu Bajie</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shamai: That's funny &#038; would be typical of the paranoia this subject can induce in people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shamai: That&#8217;s funny &#038; would be typical of the paranoia this subject can induce in people.</p>
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