Comments on: CAMERA’s High Tech Lynching of Palestinian Christian Group, SABEEL http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2007/10/27/dexter-van-ziles-fraudulent-campaign-against-sabeel/ Essays on politics, culture and ideas about Israeli-Arab peace and world music Mon, 13 Feb 2012 04:01:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jan P http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2007/10/27/dexter-van-ziles-fraudulent-campaign-against-sabeel/comment-page-2/#comment-102776 Jan P Sat, 20 Sep 2008 11:02:34 +0000 http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2007/10/27/dexter-van-ziles-fraudulent-campaign-against-sabeel/#comment-102776 Having followed Sabeel for a few years, I side with Camera. You can pick at words and sentences, but they are anti-Israel. Read this article by anglicans for israel. (Ateek is an Anglican.) http://www.anglicansforisrael.com/docs/2005/11/07/what-exactly-is-the-sabeel-center/ Having followed Sabeel for a few years, I side with Camera.

You can pick at words and sentences, but they are anti-Israel. Read this article by anglicans for israel. (Ateek is an Anglican.)

http://www.anglicansforisrael.com/docs/2005/11/07/what-exactly-is-the-sabeel-center/

]]> By: Richard Silverstein http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2007/10/27/dexter-van-ziles-fraudulent-campaign-against-sabeel/comment-page-1/#comment-61621 Richard Silverstein Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:07:05 +0000 http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2007/10/27/dexter-van-ziles-fraudulent-campaign-against-sabeel/#comment-61621 Read the instructions above the comment box. All FIRST-TIME comments are moderated to prevent some pretty awful personal hate speech that I get. I approved your first comment since it did not contain such speech. I edited out the URL since I do not promote sites that feature anti-Arab or anti-Semitic propaganda (not just CAMERA). No subsequent comment of yours has been moderated. You could see the comment published immediately after you wrote it. So why would you assume that I'm moderating it? I will not submit anything to you until I know you will publish it. Those are the terms you have enjoyed here & I expect the same. Read the instructions above the comment box. All FIRST-TIME comments are moderated to prevent some pretty awful personal hate speech that I get. I approved your first comment since it did not contain such speech. I edited out the URL since I do not promote sites that feature anti-Arab or anti-Semitic propaganda (not just CAMERA). No subsequent comment of yours has been moderated. You could see the comment published immediately after you wrote it. So why would you assume that I’m moderating it?

I will not submit anything to you until I know you will publish it. Those are the terms you have enjoyed here & I expect the same.

]]> By: Dexter Van Zile http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2007/10/27/dexter-van-ziles-fraudulent-campaign-against-sabeel/comment-page-1/#comment-61618 Dexter Van Zile Mon, 17 Dec 2007 19:56:45 +0000 http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2007/10/27/dexter-van-ziles-fraudulent-campaign-against-sabeel/#comment-61618 When I've posted, the screen has said your posts are awaiting moderation. You decided whether or not to publish them. And you edited them. So you have moderated, and edited. Now as far as "not publishing at CAMERA under the terms" I have offered, I believe the correct phrase is "submit." You have decided not to submit comments. You submit and we publish. The same is true here. It says specifically "Vulgar, abusive or insulting comments directed at the author or other commentors may be rejected and result in being banned." When I’ve posted, the screen has said your posts are awaiting moderation. You decided whether or not to publish them. And you edited them.

So you have moderated, and edited.

Now as far as “not publishing at CAMERA under the terms” I have offered, I believe the correct phrase is “submit.” You have decided not to submit comments.

You submit and we publish. The same is true here.

It says specifically “Vulgar, abusive or insulting comments directed at the author or other commentors may be rejected and result in being banned.”

]]> By: Richard Silverstein http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2007/10/27/dexter-van-ziles-fraudulent-campaign-against-sabeel/comment-page-1/#comment-61617 Richard Silverstein Mon, 17 Dec 2007 19:51:09 +0000 http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2007/10/27/dexter-van-ziles-fraudulent-campaign-against-sabeel/#comment-61617 You're full of crap. I didn't 'moderate' your comments. I removed a link according to my comment rules. This is yr 4th comment here & nothing has been changed or edited or deleted except the link to CAMERA. I told you I would not publish at CAMERA under the terms you offered. Offer terms acceptable to me & I will consider doing so. If you can't offer such terms then stop the silly act. You’re full of crap. I didn’t ‘moderate’ your comments. I removed a link according to my comment rules. This is yr 4th comment here & nothing has been changed or edited or deleted except the link to CAMERA. I told you I would not publish at CAMERA under the terms you offered. Offer terms acceptable to me & I will consider doing so. If you can’t offer such terms then stop the silly act.

]]> By: Dexter Van Zile http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2007/10/27/dexter-van-ziles-fraudulent-campaign-against-sabeel/comment-page-1/#comment-61569 Dexter Van Zile Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:22:38 +0000 http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2007/10/27/dexter-van-ziles-fraudulent-campaign-against-sabeel/#comment-61569 Well, Richard, you were offered your chance. You moderate comments on your site. We moderate comments on ours. You would deny CAMERA a right you reserve yourself? Seems pretty unreasonable. Well, Richard, you were offered your chance. You moderate comments on your site. We moderate comments on ours. You would deny CAMERA a right you reserve yourself?

Seems pretty unreasonable.

]]> By: Richard Silverstein http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2007/10/27/dexter-van-ziles-fraudulent-campaign-against-sabeel/comment-page-1/#comment-60787 Richard Silverstein Fri, 14 Dec 2007 09:12:26 +0000 http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2007/10/27/dexter-van-ziles-fraudulent-campaign-against-sabeel/#comment-60787 No, I'm not going to "see what happens." I've allowed you to post 3 comments at this site. I expect reciprocity from your site. Taking a flyer on whether or not you censor or ban my words at your site isn't what I had in mind. And btw, the rules of this site are that I don't allow linking to propaganda sites of one extreme or the other & CAMERA is one of those. If you have the right to tell me my comments might get censored at your site you're a damn hypocrite for telling me I can't eliminate a link to the hate site you work for from my own blog. Oh, & isn't it a bit rich to talk about my alleged "stridency of tone" when you spew calumnies against SABEEL claiming it espouses Judeocide. C'mon, who're you trying to kid? No, I’m not going to “see what happens.” I’ve allowed you to post 3 comments at this site. I expect reciprocity from your site. Taking a flyer on whether or not you censor or ban my words at your site isn’t what I had in mind. And btw, the rules of this site are that I don’t allow linking to propaganda sites of one extreme or the other & CAMERA is one of those.

If you have the right to tell me my comments might get censored at your site you’re a damn hypocrite for telling me I can’t eliminate a link to the hate site you work for from my own blog.

Oh, & isn’t it a bit rich to talk about my alleged “stridency of tone” when you spew calumnies against SABEEL claiming it espouses Judeocide. C’mon, who’re you trying to kid?

]]> By: Dexter Van Zile http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2007/10/27/dexter-van-ziles-fraudulent-campaign-against-sabeel/comment-page-1/#comment-60438 Dexter Van Zile Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:03:22 +0000 http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2007/10/27/dexter-van-ziles-fraudulent-campaign-against-sabeel/#comment-60438 Richard, Feel free to leave a comment on our blog, snapshots. blog.camera.org. (I won't guarantee it gets approved, given the stridency of your tone, but see what happens. Fact is, there are is a lot of articles citing chapter and verse the things you save I haven't provided proof of. Richard,

Feel free to leave a comment on our blog, snapshots. blog.camera.org. (I won’t guarantee it gets approved, given the stridency of your tone, but see what happens. Fact is, there are is a lot of articles citing chapter and verse the things you save I haven’t provided proof of.

]]> By: Richard Silverstein http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2007/10/27/dexter-van-ziles-fraudulent-campaign-against-sabeel/comment-page-1/#comment-60328 Richard Silverstein Wed, 12 Dec 2007 01:21:25 +0000 http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2007/10/27/dexter-van-ziles-fraudulent-campaign-against-sabeel/#comment-60328 I'll make a deal with you, you old blowhard. If you allow me to publish a message of my choice on the CAMERA site of precisely as many words as you've published here with a link to my site, then I'll restore your link. Now my readers will see whether you believe in reciprocity. If you don't you should slink away in shame but you won't because propaganist haters like you have none.. I’ll make a deal with you, you old blowhard. If you allow me to publish a message of my choice on the CAMERA site of precisely as many words as you’ve published here with a link to my site, then I’ll restore your link. Now my readers will see whether you believe in reciprocity. If you don’t you should slink away in shame but you won’t because propaganist haters like you have none..

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