Comments on: Finkelstein and the DePaul Lockout http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2007/08/27/finkelstein-and-the-depaul-lockout/ Essays on politics, culture and ideas about Israeli-Arab peace and world music Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:48:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Joachim Martillo http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2007/08/27/finkelstein-and-the-depaul-lockout/#comment-40198 Joachim Martillo Wed, 05 Sep 2007 20:29:07 +0000 http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2007/08/27/finkelstein-and-the-depaul-lockout/#comment-40198 What do you think a professorship at De Paul is worth? I think it was Finkelstein's last shot at one, and by the faculty evaluation he should have received it. The Vincentians probably coughed up at least $4 million, and I would consider that a victory because universities should pay when they kowtow to Zionist pressure. Eventually, the overseers and the contributors will tell university presidents to knock it off. What do you think a professorship at De Paul is worth? I think it was Finkelstein’s last shot at one, and by the faculty evaluation he should have received it. The Vincentians probably coughed up at least $4 million, and I would consider that a victory because universities should pay when they kowtow to Zionist pressure. Eventually, the overseers and the contributors will tell university presidents to knock it off.

]]> By: amir http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2007/08/27/finkelstein-and-the-depaul-lockout/#comment-40191 amir Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:37:29 +0000 http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2007/08/27/finkelstein-and-the-depaul-lockout/#comment-40191 <blockquote> I don't think the Vincentians at DePaul bargained for what a tough Jew Norman Finkelstein would turn out to be. And I think they better reconsider their idiocy before it bites them big time. </blockquote> <blockquote> Instead, he read a statement announcing his resignation this morning on the university's main quadrangle before about 120 supporters announcing that<b> he and DePaul had resolved the controversy</b>. But the terms were kept confidential.</blockquote> So much for your "tough Jew" theory.

I don’t think the Vincentians at DePaul bargained for what a tough Jew Norman Finkelstein would turn out to be. And I think they better reconsider their idiocy before it bites them big time.

Instead, he read a statement announcing his resignation this morning on the university’s main quadrangle before about 120 supporters announcing that he and DePaul had resolved the controversy. But the terms were kept confidential.

So much for your “tough Jew” theory.

]]> By: Richard Silverstein http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2007/08/27/finkelstein-and-the-depaul-lockout/#comment-39348 Richard Silverstein Sat, 01 Sep 2007 19:41:03 +0000 http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2007/08/27/finkelstein-and-the-depaul-lockout/#comment-39348 <blockquote>Are you implying that the organizers have access to so many supportive “names” that they must choose who will be given time slots and turn down the rest?</blockquote> One of the event organizers saw one of my posts here on the subject & wrote to me. I then started corresponding with them & suggesting they get a credible Israeli/Jewish academic figure to participate in order to draw in Jews who might not otherwise be drawn to the subject. Mitchell & a few other progressive Jewish bloggers started throwing around names & he suggested Tom Segev. But the organizers already had Neve Gordon signed up & felt they couldn't add another speaker to the schedule. There would be no lack of academics who'd be willing to address an event like this. Many of them would find the subject extremely important even if they don't agree with Finkelstein on every detail of his analysis. It's those types I'd hoped they'd reach out to & include in the program. But it appears they mostly have true believers, which is OK. I don't mean to knock this program as it will be phenomenal & important. I just wish it had been shaped a bit differently.

Are you implying that the organizers have access to so many supportive “names” that they must choose who will be given time slots and turn down the rest?

One of the event organizers saw one of my posts here on the subject & wrote to me. I then started corresponding with them & suggesting they get a credible Israeli/Jewish academic figure to participate in order to draw in Jews who might not otherwise be drawn to the subject. Mitchell & a few other progressive Jewish bloggers started throwing around names & he suggested Tom Segev. But the organizers already had Neve Gordon signed up & felt they couldn’t add another speaker to the schedule.

There would be no lack of academics who’d be willing to address an event like this. Many of them would find the subject extremely important even if they don’t agree with Finkelstein on every detail of his analysis. It’s those types I’d hoped they’d reach out to & include in the program. But it appears they mostly have true believers, which is OK. I don’t mean to knock this program as it will be phenomenal & important. I just wish it had been shaped a bit differently.

]]> By: David http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2007/08/27/finkelstein-and-the-depaul-lockout/#comment-39332 David Sat, 01 Sep 2007 19:03:08 +0000 http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2007/08/27/finkelstein-and-the-depaul-lockout/#comment-39332 I agree with you, Richard, but I thought the problem was dearth of supporters. Are you implying that the organizers have access to so many supportive "names" that they must choose who will be given time slots and turn down the rest? I'm not familiar with how these type of events are run. What exactly is Mitchell Plitnick's role in the Oct. 12 protest? I agree with you, Richard, but I thought the problem was dearth of supporters.

Are you implying that the organizers have access to so many supportive “names” that they must choose who will be given time slots and turn down the rest? I’m not familiar with how these type of events are run. What exactly is Mitchell Plitnick’s role in the Oct. 12 protest?

]]> By: Richard Silverstein http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2007/08/27/finkelstein-and-the-depaul-lockout/#comment-39195 Richard Silverstein Sat, 01 Sep 2007 06:21:26 +0000 http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2007/08/27/finkelstein-and-the-depaul-lockout/#comment-39195 I actually wish Chomsky wasn't going to be there. It gets the program into "all the usual suspects" mode. I'd like to broaden the agenda & include new faces & voices in the mix so that the movement for academic freedom gains adherents where it might not have had them before. That's why I suggested to the organizers (actually Mitchell Plitnick came up w. the actual name) that they include Tom Segev on the program as someone who is a more mainstream, while still progressive, Israeli figure. Unfortunately, they felt they had no room in their schedule to add someone. They really need someone who does not have a "bash the Zionists" reputation. I actually wish Chomsky wasn’t going to be there. It gets the program into “all the usual suspects” mode. I’d like to broaden the agenda & include new faces & voices in the mix so that the movement for academic freedom gains adherents where it might not have had them before.

That’s why I suggested to the organizers (actually Mitchell Plitnick came up w. the actual name) that they include Tom Segev on the program as someone who is a more mainstream, while still progressive, Israeli figure. Unfortunately, they felt they had no room in their schedule to add someone. They really need someone who does not have a “bash the Zionists” reputation.

]]> By: David http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2007/08/27/finkelstein-and-the-depaul-lockout/#comment-39191 David Sat, 01 Sep 2007 05:51:45 +0000 http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2007/08/27/finkelstein-and-the-depaul-lockout/#comment-39191 M&W, Judt, and Chomsky are joining the Oct. 12 protest-- http://www.jta.org/cgi-bin/iowa/breaking/103917.html I get the feeling this country's heading for a real battle. M&W, Judt, and Chomsky are joining the Oct. 12 protest–
http://www.jta.org/cgi-bin/iowa/breaking/103917.html

I get the feeling this country’s heading for a real battle.

]]> By: Richard Silverstein http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2007/08/27/finkelstein-and-the-depaul-lockout/#comment-38933 Richard Silverstein Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:18:59 +0000 http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2007/08/27/finkelstein-and-the-depaul-lockout/#comment-38933 Leung: Thanks for updating Finkelstein's publication record here. Five books is a lot more impressive than two, that's for sure. I linked to the Academic Freedom site you recommended in my post. Keep up yr good work at DePaul for academic freedom. Keep the pressure on the administrators and get them to admit their mistakes. Leung: Thanks for updating Finkelstein’s publication record here. Five books is a lot more impressive than two, that’s for sure. I linked to the Academic Freedom site you recommended in my post.

Keep up yr good work at DePaul for academic freedom. Keep the pressure on the administrators and get them to admit their mistakes.

]]> By: Leung Kinghay http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2007/08/27/finkelstein-and-the-depaul-lockout/#comment-38930 Leung Kinghay Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:02:44 +0000 http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2007/08/27/finkelstein-and-the-depaul-lockout/#comment-38930 On another note, some of my peers at DePaul have been actively organizing and they have been very effective. This is their website: http://www.academicfreedomchicago.org its actually quite impressive On another note, some of my peers at DePaul have been actively organizing and they have been very effective. This is their website: http://www.academicfreedomchicago.org

its actually quite impressive

]]> By: Leung Kinghay http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2007/08/27/finkelstein-and-the-depaul-lockout/#comment-38929 Leung Kinghay Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:01:26 +0000 http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2007/08/27/finkelstein-and-the-depaul-lockout/#comment-38929 Oh no, I didn't update the Wikipedia record. What I posted above was taken directly from wikipedia. Sorry I wasn't clear. Oh no, I didn’t update the Wikipedia record. What I posted above was taken directly from wikipedia. Sorry I wasn’t clear.

]]> By: LanceThruster http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2007/08/27/finkelstein-and-the-depaul-lockout/#comment-38927 LanceThruster Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:41:55 +0000 http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2007/08/27/finkelstein-and-the-depaul-lockout/#comment-38927 When one is trying to get out of a hole, the first rule is to stop digging. DePaul seems to just further embarrass itself. It's encouraging to know that others step up in support of Dr. Finkelstein as well as Professors Walt and Mearsheimer, but it is clear to anyone involved in these matters just how much pressure is brought to bear against these truth-tellers. When one is trying to get out of a hole, the first rule is to stop digging. DePaul seems to just further embarrass itself. It’s encouraging to know that others step up in support of Dr. Finkelstein as well as Professors Walt and Mearsheimer, but it is clear to anyone involved in these matters just how much pressure is brought to bear against these truth-tellers.

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