Comments on: Hamas and Israel ARE Talking

By: ellen

ellen — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 20:26:10 +0000

Richard
I thought you’d be interested that your friend MJ was on NPT today:
http://www.kcrw.com/news/programs/tp/tp070629tony_blair_from_nort

ellen

By: Richard Silverstein

Richard Silverstein — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 08:00:53 +0000

I did read opinion pieces by Leftists “blasting” Burg. Why would that surprise you?

So far, you’ve only noted a column by Yossi Beilin & not even quoted anything fr. it so that we might judge whether or not he “blasted” Burg. It wouldn’t surprise me that many Israelis disagree with Burg even some of those on the left. His ideas are quite provocative and deliberately so. But for you to claim as you have that he has become “persona non grata” in Israel and on the left is wild overstatement.

By: Richard Silverstein

Richard Silverstein — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 07:34:30 +0000

I have just discovered that comments written by both Herbert Kaine and AMin Nusseibeh at this blog were sent from the same IP address indicating they are one and same person. Why a right wing Jew would feel the need to assume the identity of an anti-Zionist Palestinian in this blog’s comment threads is beyond me. As far as I’m concerned anything written by either of them here or in the past is utterly treif and unless a satisfactory explanation is forthcoming from whoever this person is they won’t be commenting here in future.

By: AMin Nusseibeh

AMin Nusseibeh — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 23:05:19 +0000

I think Burg is closer to my viewpoint than you think. He might become a busum body of mine if I help translate his book into Arabic. Just face it Richard, being a progressive zionist is like being a pregnant man. Its just impossible. You have to choose between your old tribal myths or international justice

By: samuel burke

samuel burke — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 20:54:52 +0000

http://www.takimag.com/blogs/article/gaza_a_prison_riot/
The Middle East now faces a disaster that goes far wider than Gaza. Above it all stands the disaster of Iraq. The real significance of the Gaza debacle is that America and Britain have lost all influence in the Middle East and both the American and British leaders are totally discredited. Now the West’s worst fears are about to be realized. A militant Islamic mini-state will emerge from the chaos in the Gaza Strip. Let’s take it from the top.

Fatah, a secular party, was founded in the 1950’s. Now led by president Abbas, it accepted Israel’s right to exist in 1990

By: imjudy

imjudy — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 12:59:02 +0000

When I wrote “comments”, I meant the opinion columns in Ha’aretz, not the
comments by readers under the articles. Yes, I did read opinion pieces by
Leftists “blasting” Burg. Why would that surprise you?

By: Richard Silverstein

Richard Silverstein — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 04:27:02 +0000

I was referring to comments I read in Ha’aretz, amost all of which were negative.

The comment threads of Haaretz, Ynet & JPost are all uniformly dominated by right wingers (not leftists). I doubt you read any comments by progressives blasting Burg in Haaretz.

And as for Beilin, he is not THE Left. He is but one of many leaders of the Israeli Left. I found his position on the Lebanon war discredited him as a legitimate progressive voice. But I no more read him out of the Israeli left for his atrocious lapse in judgment than Yossi Beilin or you can read Burg out of the Israeli Left (if that’s indeed what Beilin has done).

By: imjudy

imjudy — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 04:11:23 +0000

When I said Burg has been discredited by the Left, I was referring to comments I read in Ha’aretz, amost all of which were negative. I do know Yossi Belin blasted him, and he certainly could be considered a spokesman from the Left. Why is it impossible for me to be aware of what the Left is thinking simply because I don’t agree with them?

By: Richard Silverstein

Richard Silverstein — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 03:03:04 +0000

Why don’t you read the book before you start calling Burg yr bosom buddy. I’d guess that Burg would have as much use for you as a plague. He’s nowhere near becoming yr ally. He may be estranged fr. the jokers who run his homeland but that doesn’t mean he’s ready to jump into the arms of haters like you.

By: AMin Nusseibeh

AMin Nusseibeh — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 00:06:51 +0000

I look forward to getting Avrum Burgs book too. Zionist can best be discredited by Jews, much better that Arabs, because we are accused of being biased. I also like where he calls for Jews to get foreign passports. I hope they exercise their right of return so we can exercise ours.