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	<title>Comments on: Rice: &#8216;Nothing Wrong With People of Middle East&#8217;&#8211;Whew</title>
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		<title>By: samuel burke</title>
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		<dc:creator>samuel burke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 14:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i stand corrected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i stand corrected.</p>
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		<title>By: amir</title>
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		<dc:creator>amir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 10:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The idea of a two state solution is that there should be a Jewish state and an Arab state (though I understand you endorse a two state solution of an Arab state and a binational state, but that is not what most people mean when they speak of a 2 state solution). It only makes sense that the borders be drawn in such a way as to maximize each nations majority in their own state. There is no reason to insist on the 48-67 borders if both sides agree on changes. It is obvious that Israeli Arabs reject changes of their citizenship status for the obvious reason that life is better in Israel as an "oppressed minority" than it will ever be in what is emerging as a non-democratic, corrupt Palestinian state. And I don't blame them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea of a two state solution is that there should be a Jewish state and an Arab state (though I understand you endorse a two state solution of an Arab state and a binational state, but that is not what most people mean when they speak of a 2 state solution). It only makes sense that the borders be drawn in such a way as to maximize each nations majority in their own state. There is no reason to insist on the 48-67 borders if both sides agree on changes. It is obvious that Israeli Arabs reject changes of their citizenship status for the obvious reason that life is better in Israel as an &#8220;oppressed minority&#8221; than it will ever be in what is emerging as a non-democratic, corrupt Palestinian state. And I don&#8217;t blame them.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 07:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;i wonder if the wedding will be held under a kippa&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You meant &lt;em&gt;chupah&lt;/em&gt;, not &lt;em&gt;kippa&lt;/em&gt;, which is a skull-covering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>i wonder if the wedding will be held under a kippa</p></blockquote>
<p>You meant <em>chupah</em>, not <em>kippa</em>, which is a skull-covering.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 07:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;What do you mean to say with this assertion?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Yr. comments, assumptions &#038; generalizations about the attitudes &#038; everyday life of Israeli Arabs indicate to me you have very little, if any direct contact or knowledge of this community.  I hear sweeping generalizations that seem divorced fr. reality, but instead based on politics or ideology.

If I'm wrong about yr direct experience of Arab life in Israel then instruct me howso</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What do you mean to say with this assertion?</p></blockquote>
<p>Yr. comments, assumptions &#038; generalizations about the attitudes &#038; everyday life of Israeli Arabs indicate to me you have very little, if any direct contact or knowledge of this community.  I hear sweeping generalizations that seem divorced fr. reality, but instead based on politics or ideology.</p>
<p>If I&#8217;m wrong about yr direct experience of Arab life in Israel then instruct me howso</p>
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		<title>By: amir</title>
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		<dc:creator>amir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 07:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; But you wouldn’t recognize that because you have no direct experience of how these people, yr fellow citizens, live.&lt;/blockquote&gt;What do you mean to say with this assertion?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> But you wouldn’t recognize that because you have no direct experience of how these people, yr fellow citizens, live.</p></blockquote>
<p>What do you mean to say with this assertion?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 07:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have just discovered that the comments written by Herbert Kaine and AMin Nusseibeh were sent from the same IP address indicating they are one and same person.  Why a right wing Jew would feel the need to assume the identity of an anti-Zionist Palestinian in this blog's comment threads is beyond me.  As far as I'm concerned anything written by either of them here or in the past is utterly treif and unless a satisfactory explanation is forthcoming from whoever this person is they won't be commenting here in future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have just discovered that the comments written by Herbert Kaine and AMin Nusseibeh were sent from the same IP address indicating they are one and same person.  Why a right wing Jew would feel the need to assume the identity of an anti-Zionist Palestinian in this blog&#8217;s comment threads is beyond me.  As far as I&#8217;m concerned anything written by either of them here or in the past is utterly treif and unless a satisfactory explanation is forthcoming from whoever this person is they won&#8217;t be commenting here in future.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 05:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;as far as the Arabs are concerned, all of pre-67 Israel is “disputed” territory.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
There must be a political group you're an expert in portraying, but it isn't the Israeli left and it certainly isn't "the Arabs."  To say "the Arabs" find all of Israel "disputed territory" is like saying "the Jews" want all territory from the NIle to the Euphrates for themselves.  There are a few Jews who believe this.  But does this accurately portray the views of "the Arabs?"  No.  It portrays the views of the rejectionists.  Poll after poll of Palestinian opinion shows them fully prepared to accept an Israeli state within 67 borders.  Try again.
&lt;blockquote&gt;That is why the Arabs insist on the so-called “Right of Return”&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Again, incorrect.  Most Palestinians want the Right of Return recognized IN SOME FORM.  Not necessarily in a literal form by which all expelled families could return physically to Israel.  Prob. the majority are now prepared to accept compensation in lieu of physical return.  You've apparently not heard of the term 'nuance' in describing the views of anyone you oppose.
&lt;blockquote&gt;I challenge your claim that East Jerusalem Arabs want to live under Palestinian Authority rule. Many Arabs are trying to get residency permits in Jerusalem.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Your argument is hopelessly confused.  Of course, E. Jerusalmites want Jerusalem residency permits.  Israel has done to E. Jerusalem a modified form of what it's done to Gaza.  Palestinians cannot get into or out of E. Jerusalem.  It is virtually sealed off fr. the W. Bank.  All allegedly in the name of security.  But a convenient outgrowth of the policy is to suffocate E. Jerusalem residents making them want to leave.  Hence those who wis to get Jerusalem residence permits.  If you doubt E. Jerusalem residents want to live under Palestinian sovereignty you're more obtuse than I thought you were.
&lt;blockquote&gt;Why is publishing something in the Jerusalem Post automatically suspect?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Because the J. Post is the Washington Times of the Israeli media.  Conrad Black may not own it but his right wing spirit is alive &#038; well there.
&lt;blockquote&gt;Why are statistics put out by the Israel Central Bureau of Statistics unreliable?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Because it is in the interest of the State of Israel to show the world that 'our Arabs' are happy shiny ones.  I truly would like to know more about the content of the survey in order to gauge whether it is reliable.  So if you find a more substantial article about it let me know.
&lt;blockquote&gt;Who is reliable in your eyes?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Any professional pollster who publishes their results along w. the questions asked &#038; the methodology followed as all professional surveys do.
&lt;blockquote&gt;Why is it immoral to get rid of “excess Arabs” from Um el-Fahem by transferring sovereignity to the Palestinians but it is moral to expel Jews physically from Gush Katif when Jews have been living in Gaza continuously for over 2000 years?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
It's a little thing called "democracy."  Israeli Arabs don't want to transfer sovereignty.  And even if Israel did so those same Arabs would have an excellent case for an international court as a flagrant violation of international law.  But even Israeli Jews haven't yet supported Lieberman's racist proposal so it hasn't even got the support of the government.

As for Gush Katif, the Israeli government which you &#038; yr fellow citizens elected removed yr settler friends.  The vast majority of Israelis supported the government's actions.  If you have a problem w. that elect a new government &#038; put the settlers back in there.
&lt;blockquote&gt;It would be unthinkable to say that Arabs should leave Yaffo because Jews don’t like seeing them.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
No, not unthinkable.  Some polls show as many as 40% of Israelis in favor of forced transfer of Arab population from Israel.
&lt;blockquote&gt;What is the difference between a Zionist and an “uberZionist”&lt;/blockquote&gt;
A Zionist is someone who believes that Jews have a right to a homeland.  An "uber-Zionist" is someone who believes not only that Jews have a right to a homeland; but that Israel has a right to oppress another people, flagrantly violate international law all in the name of Zionism and the Jewish people, &#038; that Israel can virtually do no wrong while Arabs can do no right.
&lt;blockquote&gt;Aliyah is increasing from France. Also from North America. There is a whole new French neighborhood in Beit Shemesh, for example.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
But just think about the broad stream of aliyah that would occur if Israel actually was a secure, stable &#038; peaceful place to live.  Then Israel could truly realize all its potential as a place of ingathering for those Jews who wished to live there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>as far as the Arabs are concerned, all of pre-67 Israel is “disputed” territory.</p></blockquote>
<p>There must be a political group you&#8217;re an expert in portraying, but it isn&#8217;t the Israeli left and it certainly isn&#8217;t &#8220;the Arabs.&#8221;  To say &#8220;the Arabs&#8221; find all of Israel &#8220;disputed territory&#8221; is like saying &#8220;the Jews&#8221; want all territory from the NIle to the Euphrates for themselves.  There are a few Jews who believe this.  But does this accurately portray the views of &#8220;the Arabs?&#8221;  No.  It portrays the views of the rejectionists.  Poll after poll of Palestinian opinion shows them fully prepared to accept an Israeli state within 67 borders.  Try again.</p>
<blockquote><p>That is why the Arabs insist on the so-called “Right of Return”</p></blockquote>
<p>Again, incorrect.  Most Palestinians want the Right of Return recognized IN SOME FORM.  Not necessarily in a literal form by which all expelled families could return physically to Israel.  Prob. the majority are now prepared to accept compensation in lieu of physical return.  You&#8217;ve apparently not heard of the term &#8216;nuance&#8217; in describing the views of anyone you oppose.</p>
<blockquote><p>I challenge your claim that East Jerusalem Arabs want to live under Palestinian Authority rule. Many Arabs are trying to get residency permits in Jerusalem.</p></blockquote>
<p>Your argument is hopelessly confused.  Of course, E. Jerusalmites want Jerusalem residency permits.  Israel has done to E. Jerusalem a modified form of what it&#8217;s done to Gaza.  Palestinians cannot get into or out of E. Jerusalem.  It is virtually sealed off fr. the W. Bank.  All allegedly in the name of security.  But a convenient outgrowth of the policy is to suffocate E. Jerusalem residents making them want to leave.  Hence those who wis to get Jerusalem residence permits.  If you doubt E. Jerusalem residents want to live under Palestinian sovereignty you&#8217;re more obtuse than I thought you were.</p>
<blockquote><p>Why is publishing something in the Jerusalem Post automatically suspect?</p></blockquote>
<p>Because the J. Post is the Washington Times of the Israeli media.  Conrad Black may not own it but his right wing spirit is alive &#038; well there.</p>
<blockquote><p>Why are statistics put out by the Israel Central Bureau of Statistics unreliable?</p></blockquote>
<p>Because it is in the interest of the State of Israel to show the world that &#8216;our Arabs&#8217; are happy shiny ones.  I truly would like to know more about the content of the survey in order to gauge whether it is reliable.  So if you find a more substantial article about it let me know.</p>
<blockquote><p>Who is reliable in your eyes?</p></blockquote>
<p>Any professional pollster who publishes their results along w. the questions asked &#038; the methodology followed as all professional surveys do.</p>
<blockquote><p>Why is it immoral to get rid of “excess Arabs” from Um el-Fahem by transferring sovereignity to the Palestinians but it is moral to expel Jews physically from Gush Katif when Jews have been living in Gaza continuously for over 2000 years?</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s a little thing called &#8220;democracy.&#8221;  Israeli Arabs don&#8217;t want to transfer sovereignty.  And even if Israel did so those same Arabs would have an excellent case for an international court as a flagrant violation of international law.  But even Israeli Jews haven&#8217;t yet supported Lieberman&#8217;s racist proposal so it hasn&#8217;t even got the support of the government.</p>
<p>As for Gush Katif, the Israeli government which you &#038; yr fellow citizens elected removed yr settler friends.  The vast majority of Israelis supported the government&#8217;s actions.  If you have a problem w. that elect a new government &#038; put the settlers back in there.</p>
<blockquote><p>It would be unthinkable to say that Arabs should leave Yaffo because Jews don’t like seeing them.</p></blockquote>
<p>No, not unthinkable.  Some polls show as many as 40% of Israelis in favor of forced transfer of Arab population from Israel.</p>
<blockquote><p>What is the difference between a Zionist and an “uberZionist”</p></blockquote>
<p>A Zionist is someone who believes that Jews have a right to a homeland.  An &#8220;uber-Zionist&#8221; is someone who believes not only that Jews have a right to a homeland; but that Israel has a right to oppress another people, flagrantly violate international law all in the name of Zionism and the Jewish people, &#038; that Israel can virtually do no wrong while Arabs can do no right.</p>
<blockquote><p>Aliyah is increasing from France. Also from North America. There is a whole new French neighborhood in Beit Shemesh, for example.</p></blockquote>
<p>But just think about the broad stream of aliyah that would occur if Israel actually was a secure, stable &#038; peaceful place to live.  Then Israel could truly realize all its potential as a place of ingathering for those Jews who wished to live there.</p>
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		<title>By: imjudy</title>
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		<dc:creator>imjudy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 19:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard-as far as the Arabs are concerned, all of pre-67 Israel is "disputed" territory. That is why they call the 1948 War the Naqba (the Catastrophe), not the 1967 War.  That is why the Arabs insist on the so-called "Right of Return", since they do not recognize Israeli sovereignity within the pre-67 Green Line. If they did they would realize they have no claim on who Israel lets in over the Green Line.  I challenge your claim that East Jerusalem Arabs want to live under Palestinian Authority rule.  Many Arabs are trying to get residency permits in Jerusalem.

Why is publishing something in the Jerusalem Post automatically suspect? Why are statistics put out by the Israel Central Bureau of Statistics unreliable?  Who is reliable in your eyes?

Why is it immoral to get rid of "excess Arabs" from Um el-Fahem by transferring sovereignity to the Palestinians but it is moral to expel Jews physically from Gush Katif when Jews have been living in Gaza continuously for over 2000 years?  Why is it understandable that all Jews be removed from parts of Eretz Israel simply because the Arabs don't like seeing them?  It would be unthinkable to say that Arabs should leave Yaffo because Jews don't like seeing them.

What is the difference between a Zionist and an "uberZionist". I have never heard that term.

Aliyah is increasing from France.  Also from North America.  There is a whole new French neighborhood in Beit Shemesh, for example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard-as far as the Arabs are concerned, all of pre-67 Israel is &#8220;disputed&#8221; territory. That is why they call the 1948 War the Naqba (the Catastrophe), not the 1967 War.  That is why the Arabs insist on the so-called &#8220;Right of Return&#8221;, since they do not recognize Israeli sovereignity within the pre-67 Green Line. If they did they would realize they have no claim on who Israel lets in over the Green Line.  I challenge your claim that East Jerusalem Arabs want to live under Palestinian Authority rule.  Many Arabs are trying to get residency permits in Jerusalem.</p>
<p>Why is publishing something in the Jerusalem Post automatically suspect? Why are statistics put out by the Israel Central Bureau of Statistics unreliable?  Who is reliable in your eyes?</p>
<p>Why is it immoral to get rid of &#8220;excess Arabs&#8221; from Um el-Fahem by transferring sovereignity to the Palestinians but it is moral to expel Jews physically from Gush Katif when Jews have been living in Gaza continuously for over 2000 years?  Why is it understandable that all Jews be removed from parts of Eretz Israel simply because the Arabs don&#8217;t like seeing them?  It would be unthinkable to say that Arabs should leave Yaffo because Jews don&#8217;t like seeing them.</p>
<p>What is the difference between a Zionist and an &#8220;uberZionist&#8221;. I have never heard that term.</p>
<p>Aliyah is increasing from France.  Also from North America.  There is a whole new French neighborhood in Beit Shemesh, for example.</p>
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		<title>By: samuel burke</title>
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		<dc:creator>samuel burke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 15:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as soon as i find the migration numbers for israel i will post them so you can also see that israel is in a net minus position with regards to those entering and those leaving there.

PARIS - 18 Nov. 2003 (Reuters) "Roger Cukierman, head of the Crif umbrella group of Jewish organizations, said Ambassador Nissim Zvili may have exaggerated the situation in the hope of winning immigrants for Israel. Zvili spoke of rising concern on Saturday after a Jewish school near paris was firebombed in an attack that prompted the government to launch a fight against a "new anti-Semitism", coming mostly from the immigrant Muslim community. "
TURKEY - Tovah Lazaroff - 21 Nov 2003 
"Turkish Jewish leaders accused Israel Thursday of exploiting the twin synagogue bombings Saturday to make a public relations point about anti-Semitism and immigration.  Executive Vice president of the Turkish Jewish Community Lina Filiba called  the Jerusalem post from Istanbul, upset about the way the Israeli media and officials have portrayed the bombings, particularly articles and comments talking about the need to bring Turkish Jews to Israel in light of the attacks anti-Semitic nature."
OXFORD, BRITAIN - Brian Klug, a senior research fellow in philosophy at St Benet's Hall, Oxford, and a founder member of the Jewish Forum for Justice and Human Rights, published an article in "The Guardian" entitled: No, anti-Zionism is not anti-Semitism.  He describes how the British foreign secretary, Arthur Balfour (sponsor of the 1905 Aliens Act to restrict Jewish immigration to the UK), wanted the government to commit itself to a Jewish homeland in palestine, his declaration was delayed - not by anti-Semites but by leading figures in the British Jewish community. They included a Jewish member of the cabinet who called Balfour's pro-Zionism "anti-Semitic in result".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as soon as i find the migration numbers for israel i will post them so you can also see that israel is in a net minus position with regards to those entering and those leaving there.</p>
<p>PARIS - 18 Nov. 2003 (Reuters) &#8220;Roger Cukierman, head of the Crif umbrella group of Jewish organizations, said Ambassador Nissim Zvili may have exaggerated the situation in the hope of winning immigrants for Israel. Zvili spoke of rising concern on Saturday after a Jewish school near paris was firebombed in an attack that prompted the government to launch a fight against a &#8220;new anti-Semitism&#8221;, coming mostly from the immigrant Muslim community. &#8221;<br />
TURKEY - Tovah Lazaroff - 21 Nov 2003<br />
&#8220;Turkish Jewish leaders accused Israel Thursday of exploiting the twin synagogue bombings Saturday to make a public relations point about anti-Semitism and immigration.  Executive Vice president of the Turkish Jewish Community Lina Filiba called  the Jerusalem post from Istanbul, upset about the way the Israeli media and officials have portrayed the bombings, particularly articles and comments talking about the need to bring Turkish Jews to Israel in light of the attacks anti-Semitic nature.&#8221;<br />
OXFORD, BRITAIN - Brian Klug, a senior research fellow in philosophy at St Benet&#8217;s Hall, Oxford, and a founder member of the Jewish Forum for Justice and Human Rights, published an article in &#8220;The Guardian&#8221; entitled: No, anti-Zionism is not anti-Semitism.  He describes how the British foreign secretary, Arthur Balfour (sponsor of the 1905 Aliens Act to restrict Jewish immigration to the UK), wanted the government to commit itself to a Jewish homeland in palestine, his declaration was delayed - not by anti-Semites but by leading figures in the British Jewish community. They included a Jewish member of the cabinet who called Balfour&#8217;s pro-Zionism &#8220;anti-Semitic in result&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: samuel burke</title>
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		<dc:creator>samuel burke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 15:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>uber zionist and the christian zionist are a marriage made in sheol and they deserve each other.....i wonder if the wedding will be held under a kippa by an interdemoninational cleric?....
the muslims will not be negotiated out of the principles they live for.....the forces are alligning themselves.....china and it's many deals with iran and their knowledge and fear of the empire called america ...russia will deffinitely not side with the u.s in the middle east since they know that the empire of democracy is trying to check mate them in europe and will not allow this to happen....so the forces are polarizing themselves and all one hears from  uber zionist is ....BRING IT ON.......just keep in mind that war is hell and we will all be asked to pay a price in an extended conflict.....i say lets negotiate a peace treaty in the middle east....let israel allow for the palestinians to live in dignity and not under the boot of their israeli prison guards.......the time for peace is now....the more entrenched both sides get the harder it will be to come off those polar forces of pride and hatred.....and fear.

preferences can be negotiated but me will die for principles.
it really is a shame that so many of the american zionist are watching this from the sidelines and pushing buttons like if it were a playstation game.....problem is that this game is with real lives and not some fantasy on a tv screen.
shalom to y'all</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>uber zionist and the christian zionist are a marriage made in sheol and they deserve each other&#8230;..i wonder if the wedding will be held under a kippa by an interdemoninational cleric?&#8230;.<br />
the muslims will not be negotiated out of the principles they live for&#8230;..the forces are alligning themselves&#8230;..china and it&#8217;s many deals with iran and their knowledge and fear of the empire called america &#8230;russia will deffinitely not side with the u.s in the middle east since they know that the empire of democracy is trying to check mate them in europe and will not allow this to happen&#8230;.so the forces are polarizing themselves and all one hears from  uber zionist is &#8230;.BRING IT ON&#8230;&#8230;.just keep in mind that war is hell and we will all be asked to pay a price in an extended conflict&#8230;..i say lets negotiate a peace treaty in the middle east&#8230;.let israel allow for the palestinians to live in dignity and not under the boot of their israeli prison guards&#8230;&#8230;.the time for peace is now&#8230;.the more entrenched both sides get the harder it will be to come off those polar forces of pride and hatred&#8230;..and fear.</p>
<p>preferences can be negotiated but me will die for principles.<br />
it really is a shame that so many of the american zionist are watching this from the sidelines and pushing buttons like if it were a playstation game&#8230;..problem is that this game is with real lives and not some fantasy on a tv screen.<br />
shalom to y&#8217;all</p>
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