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5 Responses to “Support Feinstein-Lugar Israeli-Palestinian Peace Resolution”

1. imjudy says:

   June 12, 2007 at 11:55 AM

   Considering that today 22 Arabs were killed in fighting between HAMAS and FATAH in Gaza today, in addition to 10 yesterday, with a new twist of throwing their enemies off tall building, it seems rather halluncinatory to think that the US Senate can force President Bush who in turn is supposed to force the Israelis and Arabs to make peace. Sometimes reality overcomes wishful thinking. This reminds me of the US senator, who something like three days before Nazi Germany invaded Poland in 1939 said something like “if I could only sit down with Hitler, I am SURE we could work something out”.
   BTW-regarding your calling Dershowitz a “brownshirt” in the other thread, I would warn that you are going on to a slippery slope. Many people consider Finkelstein an ally of the Nazis in his unending delegitimization of Israel which the vast majority of Israeli Jews (5 million, almost half of total world Jewry) consider, for better or worse their state, which they identify with, so you see two can play that game, and this would just lead to endless mudslinging.

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2. Richard Silverstein says:

   June 12, 2007 at 11:04 PM

   You are on a slippery slope here yourself. First, I don’t allow anyone to compare either Israelis or Palestinians here to Nazis. So if you trespass this rule again yr comment will be deleted for sure.

   Many people consider Finkelstein an ally of the Nazis

   This is an odious calumny. I will not let you make such statements here. You are on notice. If you want to call Palestinians or Norman Finkelstein Nazis you will no longer be welcome here.

   And in case you argue w. my “brownshirt” epithet & claim I’m violating my own rule–I was talking about Dershowitz’s tactics which I find brutal & repulsive; but not calling him a literal Nazi.

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3. imjudy says:

   June 13, 2007 at 12:48 AM

   I am afraid that I missed the nuances you are describing here. When you said that Dershowitz was “using Brownshirt tactics”, I thought you were saying he is like a Nazi.

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4. Richard Silverstein says:

   June 13, 2007 at 1:01 AM

   Dershowitz uses tactics familiar to bullies and tyrants the world over. But since it is Dershowitz who allows the world to believe that Finkelstein’s mother was a kapo, I thought it apt to compare his tactics to those of the Nazis, some of the most impressive bullies the world has known. But that doesn’t make a Dershowitz a real Nazi, as in a follower of National Socialism.

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5. Peter H says:

   June 14, 2007 at 11:25 AM

   Considering that today 22 Arabs were killed in fighting between HAMAS and FATAH in Gaza today, in addition to 10 yesterday, with a new twist of throwing their enemies off tall building, it seems rather halluncinatory to think that the US Senate can force President Bush who in turn is supposed to force the Israelis and Arabs to make peace

   Not in any way to absolve the Palestinian factions of their responsibility, but you are ignoring the United States role in fermenting the violence. Read the except from the report by former UN Middle East Coordinator Alvaro de Soto.

   the US clearly pushed for a confrontation between Fateh and Hamas — so much so that, a week before Mecca, the US envoy declared twice in an envoys meeting in Washington how much “I like this violence”, referring to the near-civil war that was erupting in Gaza in which civilians were being regularly killed and injured, because “it means that other Palestinians are resisting Hamas”.

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   That’s not to mention the indirect ways in which the US, Israel & the international community have continued to the infighting – e.g. the economic strangulation of Gaza has left young Palestinian men without any options except to join private militias; the economic boycott & withholding of customs of the Palestinian Authority had resulted in he breakdown of the Palestinian Authority, etc.

   Again, none of the absolves Fateh & Hamas of theirresponsibility for their criminal infighting.

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