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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What on earth are you talking about? They are not in bold on my screen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What on earth are you talking about? They are not in bold on my screen.</p>
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		<title>By: Dameocrat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dameocrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael said,

&lt;blockquote&gt;Take a look at the 25 countries who sponsored it: Afghanistan, Algeria, Bahrain, &lt;strong&gt;Cuba&lt;/strong&gt;, EGYPT, &lt;strong&gt;Guinea&lt;/strong&gt;, IRAQ, JORDAN, Kuwait, LEBANON, Libyan Arab Republic, Mauritania, Morocco, North Yemen, Oman, Qatar, SAUDI ARABIA, Somalia, South Yemen, Sudan, SYRIA Arab Republic, Tunisia, and United Arab Emirates.

In bold are &lt;strong&gt;all the states that attacked Israel in 1948,&lt;/strong&gt; before there were any ’settlements’&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Cuba and Guinea attacked Israel in 1948?  How did this happen?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael said,</p>
<blockquote><p>Take a look at the 25 countries who sponsored it: Afghanistan, Algeria, Bahrain, <strong>Cuba</strong>, EGYPT, <strong>Guinea</strong>, IRAQ, JORDAN, Kuwait, LEBANON, Libyan Arab Republic, Mauritania, Morocco, North Yemen, Oman, Qatar, SAUDI ARABIA, Somalia, South Yemen, Sudan, SYRIA Arab Republic, Tunisia, and United Arab Emirates.</p>
<p>In bold are <strong>all the states that attacked Israel in 1948,</strong> before there were any ’settlements’</p></blockquote>
<p>Cuba and Guinea attacked Israel in 1948?  How did this happen?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 04:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Can you provide a link&lt;/blockquote&gt;
http://www.forward.com/articles/candor-among-friends/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Can you provide a link</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.forward.com/articles/candor-among-friends/" rel="nofollow">http://www.forward.com/articles/candor-among-friends/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 04:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I have listened to many Hagee speeches and have even heard him APOLOGIZE on behalf of the Roman Church and America’s evangelicals for not doing enough to stop Hitler&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Which only points out all the more clearly how two-faced Hagee is.  Or perhaps you can explain to us how he both blames Jewish &quot;sinners&quot; for bringing the Holocaust on their own people and apologizes on behalf of Christianity not doing enough to stop it.  Or do YOU perhaps believe that some Jews brought the Holocaust on the rest of us??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I have listened to many Hagee speeches and have even heard him APOLOGIZE on behalf of the Roman Church and America’s evangelicals for not doing enough to stop Hitler</p></blockquote>
<p>Which only points out all the more clearly how two-faced Hagee is.  Or perhaps you can explain to us how he both blames Jewish &#8220;sinners&#8221; for bringing the Holocaust on their own people and apologizes on behalf of Christianity not doing enough to stop it.  Or do YOU perhaps believe that some Jews brought the Holocaust on the rest of us??</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 02:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you provide a link for that, Melinda?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you provide a link for that, Melinda?</p>
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		<title>By: Melinda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melinda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 02:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Forward had what I thought was a good editorial on Cheney&#039;s appearance at Aipac that overlapped a bit with what&#039;s under discussion with regard to Hagee.  They wrote: &quot;Cheney came to tear out that heart. We, the Republicans, are Israel’s true friends, he said. The Democrats, elected in a wave of popular revulsion at the war in Iraq, are Israel’s enemies. You, the representatives of the Jewish community, must choose between Israel and everything else you believe in.&quot;  I agree - we don&#039;t have to choose between support for Israel and siding with dangerous wackos on the Christian right.  And it is in part because they&#039;re asking us to make that choice that they are, in fact, dangerous wackos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Forward had what I thought was a good editorial on Cheney&#8217;s appearance at Aipac that overlapped a bit with what&#8217;s under discussion with regard to Hagee.  They wrote: &#8220;Cheney came to tear out that heart. We, the Republicans, are Israel’s true friends, he said. The Democrats, elected in a wave of popular revulsion at the war in Iraq, are Israel’s enemies. You, the representatives of the Jewish community, must choose between Israel and everything else you believe in.&#8221;  I agree &#8211; we don&#8217;t have to choose between support for Israel and siding with dangerous wackos on the Christian right.  And it is in part because they&#8217;re asking us to make that choice that they are, in fact, dangerous wackos.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 00:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ll just take this one falsehood at a time.

&quot;Do you seriously think this would have passed were it not for the settlements?&quot;

Take a look at the 25 countries who sponsored it: Afghanistan, Algeria, Bahrain, Cuba, EGYPT, Guinea, IRAQ, JORDAN, Kuwait, LEBANON, Libyan Arab Republic, Mauritania, Morocco, North Yemen, Oman, Qatar, SAUDI ARABIA, Somalia, South Yemen, Sudan, SYRIA Arab Republic, Tunisia, and United Arab Emirates.

In bold are all the states that attacked Israel in 1948, before there were any &#039;settlements&#039;. Are you saying the 47 other nations who voted for it did so because they were somehow negatively affected by Israel&#039;s policy in the territories? 


&quot;Maybe it is because there is no evidence of his involvement with the munich incident&quot;. 

Don&#039;t minimize the loss of life by calling it an &#039;incident&#039;. There is evidence of PLO involvement in the Munich Massacre.  A U.S. State Department document dated March 13, 1973 is a primary source indicating a link between Black September Organization and Fatah, the PLO faction controlled by Arafat. Then you go on to mention the involvement of Israeli leaders in militancy in the pre-state period and specifically the bombing of the King David Hotel. Your attempt to draw a moral equivalency between the two is laughable but that can be the subject of another post. At the end of the day, Palestinian terrorism is Palestinian terrorism and the UN condones it.

&quot;Many say that the translation of him calling for the destruction of Israel was distorted&quot;
If you want to play semantic word games while he denies the Holocaust, promises another one, and builds nuclear weapons to initiate one, then feel free. You strike me as the same person who would read Mein Kampf and conclude that Hitler was just misunderstood.

&quot;Also if he really did call for such a thing why hasn’t Israel pressed this case to the UN?&quot; I&#039;m surprised Israel hasn&#039;t gone to the UN. After all, Israel entrusted the U.N. to protect the northern border when they left Lebanon in 2000. We all saw how that worked out.

&quot;I also don’t see how any Jew could describe a man who believes Jews brought the holocaust on themselves&quot;
I have listened to many Hagee speeches and have even heard him APOLOGIZE on behalf of the Roman Church and America&#039;s evangelicals for not doing enough to stop Hitler. He also lamented the fact that the Nazis themselves were baptized Christians, implying that classical Christian persecution of Jews was also at work. Many Christians would not take this position, instead choosing to distance their religion from that of the Nazis but Hagee did not. He made no excuses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ll just take this one falsehood at a time.</p>
<p>&#8220;Do you seriously think this would have passed were it not for the settlements?&#8221;</p>
<p>Take a look at the 25 countries who sponsored it: Afghanistan, Algeria, Bahrain, Cuba, EGYPT, Guinea, IRAQ, JORDAN, Kuwait, LEBANON, Libyan Arab Republic, Mauritania, Morocco, North Yemen, Oman, Qatar, SAUDI ARABIA, Somalia, South Yemen, Sudan, SYRIA Arab Republic, Tunisia, and United Arab Emirates.</p>
<p>In bold are all the states that attacked Israel in 1948, before there were any &#8216;settlements&#8217;. Are you saying the 47 other nations who voted for it did so because they were somehow negatively affected by Israel&#8217;s policy in the territories? </p>
<p>&#8220;Maybe it is because there is no evidence of his involvement with the munich incident&#8221;. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t minimize the loss of life by calling it an &#8216;incident&#8217;. There is evidence of PLO involvement in the Munich Massacre.  A U.S. State Department document dated March 13, 1973 is a primary source indicating a link between Black September Organization and Fatah, the PLO faction controlled by Arafat. Then you go on to mention the involvement of Israeli leaders in militancy in the pre-state period and specifically the bombing of the King David Hotel. Your attempt to draw a moral equivalency between the two is laughable but that can be the subject of another post. At the end of the day, Palestinian terrorism is Palestinian terrorism and the UN condones it.</p>
<p>&#8220;Many say that the translation of him calling for the destruction of Israel was distorted&#8221;<br />
If you want to play semantic word games while he denies the Holocaust, promises another one, and builds nuclear weapons to initiate one, then feel free. You strike me as the same person who would read Mein Kampf and conclude that Hitler was just misunderstood.</p>
<p>&#8220;Also if he really did call for such a thing why hasn’t Israel pressed this case to the UN?&#8221; I&#8217;m surprised Israel hasn&#8217;t gone to the UN. After all, Israel entrusted the U.N. to protect the northern border when they left Lebanon in 2000. We all saw how that worked out.</p>
<p>&#8220;I also don’t see how any Jew could describe a man who believes Jews brought the holocaust on themselves&#8221;<br />
I have listened to many Hagee speeches and have even heard him APOLOGIZE on behalf of the Roman Church and America&#8217;s evangelicals for not doing enough to stop Hitler. He also lamented the fact that the Nazis themselves were baptized Christians, implying that classical Christian persecution of Jews was also at work. Many Christians would not take this position, instead choosing to distance their religion from that of the Nazis but Hagee did not. He made no excuses.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 00:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While there is universal condemnation of Ahmadinejad&#039;s views on Israel (which I agree with), there is no such universal consensus that what he said constitues genocide.  You can&#039;t charge an international leader with genocide merely because a small subset of human beings believe someone is guilty of it.  You&#039;ll have to do yr best to persuade enough people of yr views.  Many reputable Iran analysts do not believe that what he says is genocide.

And for the record, I am on record in this blog as favoring international war crimes charges against Israeli generals AND Palestinian terrorists responsible for killing civilians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While there is universal condemnation of Ahmadinejad&#8217;s views on Israel (which I agree with), there is no such universal consensus that what he said constitues genocide.  You can&#8217;t charge an international leader with genocide merely because a small subset of human beings believe someone is guilty of it.  You&#8217;ll have to do yr best to persuade enough people of yr views.  Many reputable Iran analysts do not believe that what he says is genocide.</p>
<p>And for the record, I am on record in this blog as favoring international war crimes charges against Israeli generals AND Palestinian terrorists responsible for killing civilians.</p>
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