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		<title>By: ellen</title>
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		<dc:creator>ellen</dc:creator>
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		<description>Well Richard we disagree deeply about Clinton, whom Nat Hentoff calls 
&quot;the president in this century who has inflicted the most harm on our constitutional rights and liberties&quot;.
and whom the ACLU characterizes as the biggest infringer of civil liberties of any president. (pre GB)
The following is as brief as I can make it, and is hardly comprehensive. 

Bill Clinton&#039;s assaults on our civil rights and liberties:
 
- 1994 Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act (CALEA) mandated that telephone companies rewire their networks to enable federal and state law enforcement to wiretap without being onsite. A direct line could be drawn from CALEA to the recent NSA warrantless wiretap scandal.

- 1996 Anti-Terrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act expanded the authority of secret courts and allowed the FBI to investigate First Amendment–protected activities.

- 1999  Intelligence Authorization Act includes a provision for &quot;roving&quot; wiretaps long sought by the President and FBI director Louis Freeh, and was slipped into the final bill without hearings or public debate.

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&quot;Tough on crime&quot;
The above Death Penalty Act severely restricts the right of death row inmates to file federal habeas corpus petitions. Also under his administration, in 1996 Congress eliminated funding for the 20 Death Penalty Resource Centers which provided legal services for poor defendants.
Clinton&#039;s policies have led to a tripling of the rate of executions -- at the same time as a record number of innocent people have been released from death row.
 In January 1992 he flew back to Arkansas in the midst of his first presidential campaign to approve the execution of Ricky Ray Rector. Rector, who had blown away part of his brain in a failed suicide attempt, was so mentally impaired that he asked that his desert be put aside so he could eat it after his execution.
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Clinton&#039;s attempts to increase the power of the presidency at the expense of the other two branches of government:

-Clinton claimed that executive privilege made a sitting president immune from lawsuit, a position the Supreme Court rejected in Clinton v. Jones (1997).
-Got Congress to pass the Line-Item Veto Act of 1996, which allows the President to selectively veto specific parts of a bill without vetoing the entire bill. Struck down by the Supreme Court in Clinton v. City of New York (1998).
-allowed the Independent Counsel Act to expire, which could have been used to  investigate the Bush administration for FISA violations.
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Without even mentioning the disaster of his &quot;Welfare Deform&quot;
Cast more women and children into poverty. Put recipients into &#039;jobs&#039; that had no security, no benefits, and hardly any pay, thus lowering wages and rights for workers in general. Eliminated job training and education component of welfare, which had allowed many women to move into productive employment. Reduced eligibility for food stamps. &quot;Racialized&quot; welfare: proportion of women of color receiving welfare as compared to white women rose dramatically. 
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Need we say &quot;NAFTA&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Richard we disagree deeply about Clinton, whom Nat Hentoff calls<br />
&#8220;the president in this century who has inflicted the most harm on our constitutional rights and liberties&#8221;.<br />
and whom the ACLU characterizes as the biggest infringer of civil liberties of any president. (pre GB)<br />
The following is as brief as I can make it, and is hardly comprehensive. </p>
<p>Bill Clinton&#8217;s assaults on our civil rights and liberties:</p>
<p>- 1994 Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act (CALEA) mandated that telephone companies rewire their networks to enable federal and state law enforcement to wiretap without being onsite. A direct line could be drawn from CALEA to the recent NSA warrantless wiretap scandal.</p>
<p>- 1996 Anti-Terrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act expanded the authority of secret courts and allowed the FBI to investigate First Amendment–protected activities.</p>
<p>- 1999  Intelligence Authorization Act includes a provision for &#8220;roving&#8221; wiretaps long sought by the President and FBI director Louis Freeh, and was slipped into the final bill without hearings or public debate.</p>
<p>=================================<br />
&#8220;Tough on crime&#8221;<br />
The above Death Penalty Act severely restricts the right of death row inmates to file federal habeas corpus petitions. Also under his administration, in 1996 Congress eliminated funding for the 20 Death Penalty Resource Centers which provided legal services for poor defendants.<br />
Clinton&#8217;s policies have led to a tripling of the rate of executions &#8212; at the same time as a record number of innocent people have been released from death row.<br />
 In January 1992 he flew back to Arkansas in the midst of his first presidential campaign to approve the execution of Ricky Ray Rector. Rector, who had blown away part of his brain in a failed suicide attempt, was so mentally impaired that he asked that his desert be put aside so he could eat it after his execution.<br />
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Clinton&#8217;s attempts to increase the power of the presidency at the expense of the other two branches of government:</p>
<p>-Clinton claimed that executive privilege made a sitting president immune from lawsuit, a position the Supreme Court rejected in Clinton v. Jones (1997).<br />
-Got Congress to pass the Line-Item Veto Act of 1996, which allows the President to selectively veto specific parts of a bill without vetoing the entire bill. Struck down by the Supreme Court in Clinton v. City of New York (1998).<br />
-allowed the Independent Counsel Act to expire, which could have been used to  investigate the Bush administration for FISA violations.<br />
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Without even mentioning the disaster of his &#8220;Welfare Deform&#8221;<br />
Cast more women and children into poverty. Put recipients into &#8216;jobs&#8217; that had no security, no benefits, and hardly any pay, thus lowering wages and rights for workers in general. Eliminated job training and education component of welfare, which had allowed many women to move into productive employment. Reduced eligibility for food stamps. &#8220;Racialized&#8221; welfare: proportion of women of color receiving welfare as compared to white women rose dramatically.<br />
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Need we say &#8220;NAFTA&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 22:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I do know that Haaretz’s Rosner is quite fond of Obama.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I don&#039;t think that&#039;s right.  I checked Rosner&#039;s ratings of presidential candidates for their &quot;friendliness to Israel&quot; &amp; Obama is rated last of all the candidates.  I generally find myself perfectly in harmony w. Rosner as long as I invert all his preferences.
&lt;blockquote&gt;if anyone thinks Obama is going to be any different about Israel than any other candidate...they are about to be very disillusioned.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
We&#039;ll just have to disagree on that unless or until Obama does &#039;a Hillary&#039; on Israel-Palestine matters.

The Haaretz interview you&#039;re quoting was done by Rosner, it&#039;s most right-wing correspondent.  I wouldn&#039;t fully trust the interview to reflect Obama&#039;s full range of views on this subject.  In addition, an Israel Policy Forum delegation lobbied Congress last wk. &amp; met w. him among others.  Delegation members were fully confident that he was entirely with them on all major issues.
&lt;blockquote&gt;Obama Is the Best BS Artist Since Bill Clinton&lt;/blockquote&gt;
And what&#039;s so bad about being compared to Bill Clinton??  He was a damn fine president in my opinion except for a few serious moral failings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I do know that Haaretz’s Rosner is quite fond of Obama.</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s right.  I checked Rosner&#8217;s ratings of presidential candidates for their &#8220;friendliness to Israel&#8221; &#038; Obama is rated last of all the candidates.  I generally find myself perfectly in harmony w. Rosner as long as I invert all his preferences.</p>
<blockquote><p>if anyone thinks Obama is going to be any different about Israel than any other candidate&#8230;they are about to be very disillusioned.</p></blockquote>
<p>We&#8217;ll just have to disagree on that unless or until Obama does &#8216;a Hillary&#8217; on Israel-Palestine matters.</p>
<p>The Haaretz interview you&#8217;re quoting was done by Rosner, it&#8217;s most right-wing correspondent.  I wouldn&#8217;t fully trust the interview to reflect Obama&#8217;s full range of views on this subject.  In addition, an Israel Policy Forum delegation lobbied Congress last wk. &#038; met w. him among others.  Delegation members were fully confident that he was entirely with them on all major issues.</p>
<blockquote><p>Obama Is the Best BS Artist Since Bill Clinton</p></blockquote>
<p>And what&#8217;s so bad about being compared to Bill Clinton??  He was a damn fine president in my opinion except for a few serious moral failings.</p>
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		<title>By: ellen</title>
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		<dc:creator>ellen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 21:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check this site for an interview with the brilliant Ali Abunimah. Among other issues he discusses the evolution (or devolution) of Obama&#039;s relation with Israel, Condi in the Mid-East, and the &#039;two-state solution&#039;.
PALESTINE: EI IN THE PRESS: 
EI&#039;s Ali Abunimah discusses Rice trip on Flashpoints 
Interview, Flashpoints Radio, 21 February 2007 

EI co-founder Ali Abunimah was interviewed
on Flashpoints Radio on Tuesday, 20 February 2007. He
discussed the previous day&#039;s talks in Jerusalem with
Condoleezza Rice as she presses for Bush&#039;s vision for a
future Palestinian state. He told host Nora
Barrows-Friedman, &quot;The United States and Israel expect
Abbas to act as their quisling, really, just a
collaborator representing them. And Abbas&#039; transgressions
in their books are that he has placed the desire among
Palestinians for unity and democracy above the demands of
the occupier and the United States.&quot;

http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article6574.shtml


ellen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check this site for an interview with the brilliant Ali Abunimah. Among other issues he discusses the evolution (or devolution) of Obama&#8217;s relation with Israel, Condi in the Mid-East, and the &#8216;two-state solution&#8217;.<br />
PALESTINE: EI IN THE PRESS:<br />
EI&#8217;s Ali Abunimah discusses Rice trip on Flashpoints<br />
Interview, Flashpoints Radio, 21 February 2007 </p>
<p>EI co-founder Ali Abunimah was interviewed<br />
on Flashpoints Radio on Tuesday, 20 February 2007. He<br />
discussed the previous day&#8217;s talks in Jerusalem with<br />
Condoleezza Rice as she presses for Bush&#8217;s vision for a<br />
future Palestinian state. He told host Nora<br />
Barrows-Friedman, &#8220;The United States and Israel expect<br />
Abbas to act as their quisling, really, just a<br />
collaborator representing them. And Abbas&#8217; transgressions<br />
in their books are that he has placed the desire among<br />
Palestinians for unity and democracy above the demands of<br />
the occupier and the United States.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article6574.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article6574.shtml</a></p>
<p>ellen</p>
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		<title>By: ellen</title>
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		<dc:creator>ellen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 12:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know whether or not Obama supports a separate Palestine state. I do know that Haaretz&#039;s Rosner is quite fond of Obama. My point is that if anyone thinks Obama is going to be any different about Israel than any other candidate (possible exception of Kucinich who has been disappeared), they are about to be very disillusioned.
Rosner speaking of Obama:
&quot;&quot;Israelis want more than anything to live in peace with their neighbors, but Israel also has real - and very dangerous - enemies,&quot; were Obama&#039;s words to Haaretz. &quot;My view is that the United States&#039; special relationship with Israel obligates us to be helpful to them in the search for credible partners with whom they can make peace, while also supporting Israel in defending itself against enemies sworn to its destruction.&quot; 
 Like all the other major Democratic candidates, he will be a strong advocate for American involvement in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Nonetheless, he said he is yet to see - &quot;particularly in the Palestinian community - &quot;leaders who have both the will and the capacity to renounce violence as a strategy to resolve the problems and to actually enforce any agreement that might be reached with the Israelis.&quot; Talking about the current prospects for an agreement, Obama said that under the existing conditions, &quot;I think we&#039;re not going to see much progress.&quot;
There&#039;s also a chance that he will make his comments on Israel at a Washington rally calling for the release of the abducted Israeli soldiers or while speaking to a group of Chicago Jews. One thing is quite clear: It will happen in the next two to three weeks.

I asked about the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) convention in March and was told that he will speak there too, but wants to have another speech sooner. Obama doesn&#039;t want to wait such a long time - not when he is running a campaign in which he will need the support of many people who care deeply about Israel. (Oh, let&#039;s just say it: Jewish voters are major donors to the Democratic Party and its nominees.) He also wants to make sure that people will hear him, and him alone. After all, Obama will not be the only candidate speaking and getting attention at the AIPAC conference. &quot;

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/827424.html

More on Obama (Rolling Stone)
&quot;The Illinois Senator is the ultimate modern media creature -- he&#039;s a good-looking, youthful, smooth-talking, buttery-warm personality with an aw-shucks demeanor who exudes a seemingly impenetrable air of Harvard-crafted moral neutrality. ..
 His entire political persona is an ingeniously crafted human cipher, a man without race, ideology, geographic allegiances, or, indeed, sharp edges of any kind. You can&#039;t run against him on the issues because you can&#039;t even find him on the ideological spectrum. &quot;

Above from: Obama Is the Best BS Artist Since Bill Clinton
By Matt Taibbi, RollingStone.com
Posted on February 14, 2007, Printed on February 20, 2007
http://www.alternet.org/story/48051/

ellen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know whether or not Obama supports a separate Palestine state. I do know that Haaretz&#8217;s Rosner is quite fond of Obama. My point is that if anyone thinks Obama is going to be any different about Israel than any other candidate (possible exception of Kucinich who has been disappeared), they are about to be very disillusioned.<br />
Rosner speaking of Obama:<br />
&#8220;&#8221;Israelis want more than anything to live in peace with their neighbors, but Israel also has real &#8211; and very dangerous &#8211; enemies,&#8221; were Obama&#8217;s words to Haaretz. &#8220;My view is that the United States&#8217; special relationship with Israel obligates us to be helpful to them in the search for credible partners with whom they can make peace, while also supporting Israel in defending itself against enemies sworn to its destruction.&#8221;<br />
 Like all the other major Democratic candidates, he will be a strong advocate for American involvement in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Nonetheless, he said he is yet to see &#8211; &#8220;particularly in the Palestinian community &#8211; &#8220;leaders who have both the will and the capacity to renounce violence as a strategy to resolve the problems and to actually enforce any agreement that might be reached with the Israelis.&#8221; Talking about the current prospects for an agreement, Obama said that under the existing conditions, &#8220;I think we&#8217;re not going to see much progress.&#8221;<br />
There&#8217;s also a chance that he will make his comments on Israel at a Washington rally calling for the release of the abducted Israeli soldiers or while speaking to a group of Chicago Jews. One thing is quite clear: It will happen in the next two to three weeks.</p>
<p>I asked about the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) convention in March and was told that he will speak there too, but wants to have another speech sooner. Obama doesn&#8217;t want to wait such a long time &#8211; not when he is running a campaign in which he will need the support of many people who care deeply about Israel. (Oh, let&#8217;s just say it: Jewish voters are major donors to the Democratic Party and its nominees.) He also wants to make sure that people will hear him, and him alone. After all, Obama will not be the only candidate speaking and getting attention at the AIPAC conference. &#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/827424.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/827424.html</a></p>
<p>More on Obama (Rolling Stone)<br />
&#8220;The Illinois Senator is the ultimate modern media creature &#8212; he&#8217;s a good-looking, youthful, smooth-talking, buttery-warm personality with an aw-shucks demeanor who exudes a seemingly impenetrable air of Harvard-crafted moral neutrality. ..<br />
 His entire political persona is an ingeniously crafted human cipher, a man without race, ideology, geographic allegiances, or, indeed, sharp edges of any kind. You can&#8217;t run against him on the issues because you can&#8217;t even find him on the ideological spectrum. &#8221;</p>
<p>Above from: Obama Is the Best BS Artist Since Bill Clinton<br />
By Matt Taibbi, RollingStone.com<br />
Posted on February 14, 2007, Printed on February 20, 2007<br />
<a href="http://www.alternet.org/story/48051/" rel="nofollow">http://www.alternet.org/story/48051/</a></p>
<p>ellen</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 19:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Senator Obama does not seem to understand this.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Boy, are you misinformed.  Where do you get that Obama doesn&#039;t support an independent Palestinian state?  Even Bush and Olmert claim they support this.  So why would Obama have a problem with this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Senator Obama does not seem to understand this.</p></blockquote>
<p>Boy, are you misinformed.  Where do you get that Obama doesn&#8217;t support an independent Palestinian state?  Even Bush and Olmert claim they support this.  So why would Obama have a problem with this?</p>
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		<title>By: Dieter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dieter</dc:creator>
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		<description>When the United Nations (illegally I think) partitioned the former Mandate of Palestine it established identical conditions for a Jewish and for a
Palestinian State. Hence, under international law, the Palestinians have the right to a sovereign state of their own and Israel has the obligation to recognize such a state. Senator Obama does not seem to understand this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the United Nations (illegally I think) partitioned the former Mandate of Palestine it established identical conditions for a Jewish and for a<br />
Palestinian State. Hence, under international law, the Palestinians have the right to a sovereign state of their own and Israel has the obligation to recognize such a state. Senator Obama does not seem to understand this.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Sniderman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Sniderman</dc:creator>
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		<description>No, I absolutely blame Nader (and SCOTUS).- and I do believe that was ENTIRELY his intention.  I&#039;ve seen several reports of him making comments that he desired Bush to be elected in order to &quot;Make things worse&quot; to &quot;show the contradictions&quot;.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guardian.co.uk/US_election_race/Story/0,,393743,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt; is one editorial, from The Guardian on the day of the election, I&#039;m sure I could find some more recent ones.

Yes Ralph, &quot;Let&#039;s Make things&quot; worse.  Who cares how many Iraqi&#039;s die.  

I think the only value Ralph has any more is his meglomaina and ego.  At one time he was a great man - now he is no better than those he ctriticizes.

IF we do have war in Iran, I feel that Ralph shares the blames.  I do wonder how he sleeps at night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I absolutely blame Nader (and SCOTUS).- and I do believe that was ENTIRELY his intention.  I&#8217;ve seen several reports of him making comments that he desired Bush to be elected in order to &#8220;Make things worse&#8221; to &#8220;show the contradictions&#8221;.  <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/US_election_race/Story/0,,393743,00.html" rel="nofollow">Here</a> is one editorial, from The Guardian on the day of the election, I&#8217;m sure I could find some more recent ones.</p>
<p>Yes Ralph, &#8220;Let&#8217;s Make things&#8221; worse.  Who cares how many Iraqi&#8217;s die.  </p>
<p>I think the only value Ralph has any more is his meglomaina and ego.  At one time he was a great man &#8211; now he is no better than those he ctriticizes.</p>
<p>IF we do have war in Iran, I feel that Ralph shares the blames.  I do wonder how he sleeps at night.</p>
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		<title>By: ellen</title>
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		<dc:creator>ellen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 17:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just want to make clear - I am no Hillary fan! 
I don&#039;t see elections as being where I would put my energy as far as improving the world.
And Hllary once was a lawyer for the Children&#039;s Defense Fund - a very good organization.
Once a person becomes a &#039;viable&#039; candidate, if they are seious about winning, then they have to choose between their principles and pragmatism. 
I remember hearing Maxine Waters once, for whom I had a lot of respect, during the Bill Clinton years. She was defending him. 
I understand that if you are in politics there are certain things you must do and must not do. One does not go against the leader of the party. (usually) But still..to defend the indefensible. 

And about Nader -  He values the same things I value. Apparently a lot of people don&#039;t share those values and they voted for Gore or Bush over Nader. I don&#039;t think you can blame Nader for that.  

Yes, a lot can happen between now and Election Day. Hopefully war on Iran won&#039;t be one of those things!

regards,
ellen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to make clear &#8211; I am no Hillary fan!<br />
I don&#8217;t see elections as being where I would put my energy as far as improving the world.<br />
And Hllary once was a lawyer for the Children&#8217;s Defense Fund &#8211; a very good organization.<br />
Once a person becomes a &#8216;viable&#8217; candidate, if they are seious about winning, then they have to choose between their principles and pragmatism.<br />
I remember hearing Maxine Waters once, for whom I had a lot of respect, during the Bill Clinton years. She was defending him.<br />
I understand that if you are in politics there are certain things you must do and must not do. One does not go against the leader of the party. (usually) But still..to defend the indefensible. </p>
<p>And about Nader &#8211;  He values the same things I value. Apparently a lot of people don&#8217;t share those values and they voted for Gore or Bush over Nader. I don&#8217;t think you can blame Nader for that.  </p>
<p>Yes, a lot can happen between now and Election Day. Hopefully war on Iran won&#8217;t be one of those things!</p>
<p>regards,<br />
ellen</p>
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