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	<title>Comments on: British Jews Rebel Against Leadership&#8217;s &#8216;Rubber Stamp&#8217; of Israeli Policy</title>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 22:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You people are just beginning to get what we have understood for decades.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I find such an address to be condescending &#038; offensive.  I am not "you people."  I am an individual.  If you choose to address me as a collective, part of a group you assume all share the same values &#038; beliefs, you make a huge mistake (not that you'd care to bother differentiating  Jews fr one another since we're all the enemy anyway).
&lt;blockquote&gt;You can have Israel, or you can have peace, but not both.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I just love it when the Israel nationalists &#038; anti-ZIonist activists talk in virtually the same strident, sweeping terms.  There IS a middle ground, but you wouldn't know it fr. the absolutists on both sides.  There CAN be peace bet. Israel and the Palestinians.  Israel CAN exist and find peace w. the Palestinians.  I'm afraid it will be you who will have to adjust to a reality that includes Israel whether you like it or not.  Neither you nor anyone else will sweep Israel off the map of history.
&lt;blockquote&gt;The world will be inflamed until we exercise our right of return&lt;/blockquote&gt;
No, the world will be inflamed until the conflict is resolved.  The right of return will be dealt with in that resolution.  The way it is dealt with will of course not satisfy the extremists on either side.  But a compromise will be struck that allows those Palestinians who want peace to say that the right of return was realized, albeit in a truncated fashion.  And it will allow Israelis to say that while we compromised on this issue, we did not give Palestinians a right which will threaten or undermine our country.
&lt;blockquote&gt;Unlike us, Jews can emigrate wherever you want. Palestine is our only home&lt;/blockquote&gt;
A patently false claim.  Palestinians don't emigrate?  Palestinians don't live in many countries throughout the world?  There was a period when hundreds of thousands of Jews could not emigrate "wherever" they wanted.  In fact, many millions died precisely because they could not escape the slaughter.  That's precisely why the State of Israel was created.

There will be a time when any Palestinian wishing to return to a Palestinian state will be allowed to return and rebuild their lives there.  I'd have hoped that day would've come long ago.  But due to Israeli intransigence &#038; Palestinian terror, it hasn't happened yet.  But it should.

Palestine may be your home.  But Israel is the Israeli home.  They will have to learn to live together somehow side by side; or they will die together in an ongoing bloodbath.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You people are just beginning to get what we have understood for decades.</p></blockquote>
<p>I find such an address to be condescending &#038; offensive.  I am not &#8220;you people.&#8221;  I am an individual.  If you choose to address me as a collective, part of a group you assume all share the same values &#038; beliefs, you make a huge mistake (not that you&#8217;d care to bother differentiating  Jews fr one another since we&#8217;re all the enemy anyway).</p>
<blockquote><p>You can have Israel, or you can have peace, but not both.</p></blockquote>
<p>I just love it when the Israel nationalists &#038; anti-ZIonist activists talk in virtually the same strident, sweeping terms.  There IS a middle ground, but you wouldn&#8217;t know it fr. the absolutists on both sides.  There CAN be peace bet. Israel and the Palestinians.  Israel CAN exist and find peace w. the Palestinians.  I&#8217;m afraid it will be you who will have to adjust to a reality that includes Israel whether you like it or not.  Neither you nor anyone else will sweep Israel off the map of history.</p>
<blockquote><p>The world will be inflamed until we exercise our right of return</p></blockquote>
<p>No, the world will be inflamed until the conflict is resolved.  The right of return will be dealt with in that resolution.  The way it is dealt with will of course not satisfy the extremists on either side.  But a compromise will be struck that allows those Palestinians who want peace to say that the right of return was realized, albeit in a truncated fashion.  And it will allow Israelis to say that while we compromised on this issue, we did not give Palestinians a right which will threaten or undermine our country.</p>
<blockquote><p>Unlike us, Jews can emigrate wherever you want. Palestine is our only home</p></blockquote>
<p>A patently false claim.  Palestinians don&#8217;t emigrate?  Palestinians don&#8217;t live in many countries throughout the world?  There was a period when hundreds of thousands of Jews could not emigrate &#8220;wherever&#8221; they wanted.  In fact, many millions died precisely because they could not escape the slaughter.  That&#8217;s precisely why the State of Israel was created.</p>
<p>There will be a time when any Palestinian wishing to return to a Palestinian state will be allowed to return and rebuild their lives there.  I&#8217;d have hoped that day would&#8217;ve come long ago.  But due to Israeli intransigence &#038; Palestinian terror, it hasn&#8217;t happened yet.  But it should.</p>
<p>Palestine may be your home.  But Israel is the Israeli home.  They will have to learn to live together somehow side by side; or they will die together in an ongoing bloodbath.</p>
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		<title>By: Leila Khan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leila Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 14:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You people are just beginning to get what we have understood for decades. You can have Israel, or you can have peace, but not both. The world will be inflamed until we exercise our right of return. Unlike us, Jews can emigrate wherever you want. Palestine is our only home</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You people are just beginning to get what we have understood for decades. You can have Israel, or you can have peace, but not both. The world will be inflamed until we exercise our right of return. Unlike us, Jews can emigrate wherever you want. Palestine is our only home</p>
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		<title>By: Sahil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sahil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 12:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Richard, I just saw your post on Pickled Politics, and came over to your site.  I really applaud your work, and wish you every success.  I'm fed up with the current debate, and a fresh engagement is something to look forward to!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Richard, I just saw your post on Pickled Politics, and came over to your site.  I really applaud your work, and wish you every success.  I&#8217;m fed up with the current debate, and a fresh engagement is something to look forward to!</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 07:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Itzikl: Creating a new lobbying group out of three disparate political groups, while enlisting the requisite financial support is a daunting challenge.  The last media piece I've read about the Soros initiative came out about 3 wks. ago in Salon.  I wrote about it &lt;a href="http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2007/01/13/dovish-american-jews-raise-millions-for-new-lobby-to-counter-aipac/" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.

I too am anxious &#038; impatient for change and for a unified voice to combat the shellacking inflicted by the Israel lobby on Jewish doves.  But I'm prepared to give the organizers all the time they need to get their ducks in a row &#038; flying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Itzikl: Creating a new lobbying group out of three disparate political groups, while enlisting the requisite financial support is a daunting challenge.  The last media piece I&#8217;ve read about the Soros initiative came out about 3 wks. ago in Salon.  I wrote about it <a href="http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2007/01/13/dovish-american-jews-raise-millions-for-new-lobby-to-counter-aipac/" rel="nofollow" >here</a>.</p>
<p>I too am anxious &#038; impatient for change and for a unified voice to combat the shellacking inflicted by the Israel lobby on Jewish doves.  But I&#8217;m prepared to give the organizers all the time they need to get their ducks in a row &#038; flying.</p>
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		<title>By: itzikl</title>
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		<dc:creator>itzikl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 07:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So where is that "alternative AIPAC" we all heard about? It'd be nice if American Jews had some voice for a change. I am totally sick of the present situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So where is that &#8220;alternative AIPAC&#8221; we all heard about? It&#8217;d be nice if American Jews had some voice for a change. I am totally sick of the present situation.</p>
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