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	<title>Comments on: Why is PBS Afraid of New Israel Fund?</title>
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		<title>By: d</title>
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		<dc:creator>d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2005 06:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard,

Thanks for your reply.

It seems to me that my comment and your response to it contain several different alternative descriptions that could be used.   I just did a Google search for &quot;uncritical supporters of israel&quot;  and turned up a number of hits, so I see no reason why &#039;uncritical Jewish supporters of Israel&#039; couldn&#039;t be  used in place of &#039;pro-Israel Jews&#039;.  Support for the policies you oppose is based in part on anxieties over Israel&#039;s security.  By using the term &#039;pro-Israel&#039; to describe your opponents, I feel that you risk creating a subtle suggestion that your position is less good for Israel&#039;s security than theirs.   Since the term Israel is associated with the Jewish people in general (e.g., &#039;people of Israel&#039; or &#039;hear O israel&#039;), I also feel that by using the term &#039;pro-Israel&#039; you risk creating a subconscious suggestion that your position is less &#039;good for the Jews&#039; in general.  You could address the latter by using the term &#039;Zionist&#039; rather than &#039;pro-Israel&#039;, although in this case (as your post also refers to NIF, who don&#039;t sound anti-Zionist from the way you describe them) it could be better to use a modifier such as &#039;right-wing Zionist&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard,</p>
<p>Thanks for your reply.</p>
<p>It seems to me that my comment and your response to it contain several different alternative descriptions that could be used.   I just did a Google search for &#8220;uncritical supporters of israel&#8221;  and turned up a number of hits, so I see no reason why &#8216;uncritical Jewish supporters of Israel&#8217; couldn&#8217;t be  used in place of &#8216;pro-Israel Jews&#8217;.  Support for the policies you oppose is based in part on anxieties over Israel&#8217;s security.  By using the term &#8216;pro-Israel&#8217; to describe your opponents, I feel that you risk creating a subtle suggestion that your position is less good for Israel&#8217;s security than theirs.   Since the term Israel is associated with the Jewish people in general (e.g., &#8216;people of Israel&#8217; or &#8216;hear O israel&#8217;), I also feel that by using the term &#8216;pro-Israel&#8217; you risk creating a subconscious suggestion that your position is less &#8216;good for the Jews&#8217; in general.  You could address the latter by using the term &#8216;Zionist&#8217; rather than &#8216;pro-Israel&#8217;, although in this case (as your post also refers to NIF, who don&#8217;t sound anti-Zionist from the way you describe them) it could be better to use a modifier such as &#8216;right-wing Zionist&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2005 04:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, the term &#039;pro-Israel&#039; is imprecise.  In the strictest sense of the term I see the first Bush and James Baker as being eminently pro-Israel as I also see myself.  But generally that term is used to describe Israeli and American Jews who support a right-wing, Likud position on the Israeli Palestinian conflict.  So the term has become shorthand if you will used to describe the world view of what I call the Israel hardliners.  If you know of a better or more apt term, I&#039;d be happy to hear it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the term &#8216;pro-Israel&#8217; is imprecise.  In the strictest sense of the term I see the first Bush and James Baker as being eminently pro-Israel as I also see myself.  But generally that term is used to describe Israeli and American Jews who support a right-wing, Likud position on the Israeli Palestinian conflict.  So the term has become shorthand if you will used to describe the world view of what I call the Israel hardliners.  If you know of a better or more apt term, I&#8217;d be happy to hear it.</p>
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		<title>By: d</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2005 02:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your site.  Many think that Israel&#039;s settlement 
policies has been bad for that country.   I see it as imprecise 
to use the term &#039;pro-Israel&#039; to identify defenders or promoters 
of that policy.

For example: if I understand correctly, the first Bush administration tried to 
use American influence to force a settlement freeze, but was
stopped by Congress.   Perhaps Israel would be in a much healthier
position today if the White House had been able to go ahead with that.
Is it accurate then to say that Congress acted in a &#039;pro-Israel&#039; way?
 
Rather than &#039;pro-Israel&#039;, I think of the people you describe as 
&#039;cheerleaders for Israel&#039; or &#039;uncritical supporters of Israel&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your site.  Many think that Israel&#8217;s settlement<br />
policies has been bad for that country.   I see it as imprecise<br />
to use the term &#8216;pro-Israel&#8217; to identify defenders or promoters<br />
of that policy.</p>
<p>For example: if I understand correctly, the first Bush administration tried to<br />
use American influence to force a settlement freeze, but was<br />
stopped by Congress.   Perhaps Israel would be in a much healthier<br />
position today if the White House had been able to go ahead with that.<br />
Is it accurate then to say that Congress acted in a &#8216;pro-Israel&#8217; way?</p>
<p>Rather than &#8216;pro-Israel&#8217;, I think of the people you describe as<br />
&#8216;cheerleaders for Israel&#8217; or &#8216;uncritical supporters of Israel&#8217;.</p>
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